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		<title>By: Gabe</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47338</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 23:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t the rebellion of Korah supposed to mirror Lucifer&#039;s rebellion in heaven?  I thought I heard that before, and it makes sense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the rebellion of Korah supposed to mirror Lucifer&#8217;s rebellion in heaven?  I thought I heard that before, and it makes sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Hanks</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47331</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Hanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen Pam, Amen!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Pam, Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: carl roberts</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47263</link>
		<dc:creator>carl roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 00:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Unlock the truth, Thyself the key, unseal these sacred Words.&quot;

He truly is the &quot;Key to the Kingdom,&quot;and the Golden Key to understanding the scriptures. ~Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures ~ (Luke 24.27) As He stood before Pilate for examination- a very poignant and pointed question from Pilate- What is Truth? When I think of this, I smile- knowing &quot;Truth&quot; was standing right in front of him yet Pilate was blind to see it. Was it not our LORD Himself who said, &quot;I AM the Way-the Truth and the Life? (John 14.6) Truth is not a precept- it is a Person and He has invited &quot;whosoever will&quot; to draw near.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unlock the truth, Thyself the key, unseal these sacred Words.&#8221;</p>
<p>He truly is the &#8220;Key to the Kingdom,&#8221;and the Golden Key to understanding the scriptures. ~Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures ~ (Luke 24.27) As He stood before Pilate for examination- a very poignant and pointed question from Pilate- What is Truth? When I think of this, I smile- knowing &#8220;Truth&#8221; was standing right in front of him yet Pilate was blind to see it. Was it not our LORD Himself who said, &#8220;I AM the Way-the Truth and the Life? (John 14.6) Truth is not a precept- it is a Person and He has invited &#8220;whosoever will&#8221; to draw near.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skip, I believe this was summed up in these 22 words:

&quot;Rather, speaking the truth in love, 
we are to grow up in every way into Him 
who is the head, into Christ.&quot;   Eph. 4:15  &lt;

   
    :)      this smile is for everyone !


Carl, I always appreciate the hymns you post! I didn&#039;t know these lyrics you showed us today. 
But have long prayed some of the lines before reading my Bible!
Isn&#039;t that something, --I don&#039;t know by whom or when I was taught it, but no matter, long ago it
became MY prayer.

&quot;Unlock the truth, Thyself the key, unseal these sacred Words.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skip, I believe this was summed up in these 22 words:</p>
<p>&#8220;Rather, speaking the truth in love,<br />
we are to grow up in every way into Him<br />
who is the head, into Christ.&#8221;   Eph. 4:15  &lt;</p>
<p>    <img src='http://skipmoen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />       this smile is for everyone !</p>
<p>Carl, I always appreciate the hymns you post! I didn&#039;t know these lyrics you showed us today.<br />
But have long prayed some of the lines before reading my Bible!<br />
Isn&#039;t that something, &#8211;I don&#039;t know by whom or when I was taught it, but no matter, long ago it<br />
became MY prayer.</p>
<p>&quot;Unlock the truth, Thyself the key, unseal these sacred Words.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: carl roberts</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47256</link>
		<dc:creator>carl roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[~ Only the author knows everything he intended to communicate in his message ~ 

Permission to alter this slightly?  ~ Only the Author knows everything He intended to communicate in His message ~ 

Would this be a &quot;game-changer?&quot;  Who is the Author of the scriptures and do the scriptures (His  words)  have &quot;authority&quot; in our lives?  Is God able to communicate (or reveal) to His own-  His own word?

May we say (and know) - &quot;Yes, He said that?&quot; or &quot;the word of God says&quot; or &quot;what do the scriptures say?&quot; Does God still speak to His own children (today)- and is God &quot;able&quot; to communicate His message of deliverance/salvation/reconciliation  through these words we &quot;study&quot; (and sometimes debate) day after day? 

According to our Bible, (and it is &quot;our Bible&quot; for it is written for anyone to read) ~ All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;that the man of God may be ártios (&quot;ready-because-prepared&quot;), fully equipped (exērtismenos) to every good work ~ (2 Timothy 3.17) 

If this is true, (and, of course - it is) &quot;all&quot; scripture in inspired by God (theopneustos-God-breathed) , may we then say Genesis is every bit as &quot;God-breathed&quot; as Galatians? Exodus as well as Ephesians?  And again, ~ the prophecy came not by the will of man in the ancient times, but when holy men of God spoke, being compelled by the Holy Spirit ~ (2 Peter 1.21) 
        Were Moses, Elijah and David (who were all flesh and blood humans)  all &quot;compelled by the Holy Spirit?&quot; 

We have not feared to speak of God or Jesus, but what about the Holy Spirit?  ~ the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you know Him, for He lives with you and will be in you ~ (John 14:17)  and again (seemingly harsh words but..) ~ if a man does not have The Spirit of The Messiah in him, this one does not belong to Him ~ (Romans 8.9) 

He lives with you and will be in you..  - this, in the very least - is no small thing! 

Then, 

Come, Holy Ghost, our hearts inspire, 
let us Thine influence prove; 

Source of the old prophetic fire, 
Fountain of life and love. 

Come, Holy Ghost, (for moved by Thee 
the prophets wrote and spoke), 

unlock the truth, Thyself the key,
unseal the sacred Book. 

Expand Thy wings, celestial Dove, 
brood o&#039;er our nature&#039;s night;
 
on our disordered spirits move, 
and let there now be light. 

God, through the Spirit we shall know 
if Thou within us shine, 

and sound, with all Thy saints below, 
the depths of Love divine.


(Charles Wesley)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>~ Only the author knows everything he intended to communicate in his message ~ </p>
<p>Permission to alter this slightly?  ~ Only the Author knows everything He intended to communicate in His message ~ </p>
<p>Would this be a &#8220;game-changer?&#8221;  Who is the Author of the scriptures and do the scriptures (His  words)  have &#8220;authority&#8221; in our lives?  Is God able to communicate (or reveal) to His own-  His own word?</p>
<p>May we say (and know) &#8211; &#8220;Yes, He said that?&#8221; or &#8220;the word of God says&#8221; or &#8220;what do the scriptures say?&#8221; Does God still speak to His own children (today)- and is God &#8220;able&#8221; to communicate His message of deliverance/salvation/reconciliation  through these words we &#8220;study&#8221; (and sometimes debate) day after day? </p>
<p>According to our Bible, (and it is &#8220;our Bible&#8221; for it is written for anyone to read) ~ All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;that the man of God may be ártios (&#8220;ready-because-prepared&#8221;), fully equipped (exērtismenos) to every good work ~ (2 Timothy 3.17) </p>
<p>If this is true, (and, of course &#8211; it is) &#8220;all&#8221; scripture in inspired by God (theopneustos-God-breathed) , may we then say Genesis is every bit as &#8220;God-breathed&#8221; as Galatians? Exodus as well as Ephesians?  And again, ~ the prophecy came not by the will of man in the ancient times, but when holy men of God spoke, being compelled by the Holy Spirit ~ (2 Peter 1.21)<br />
        Were Moses, Elijah and David (who were all flesh and blood humans)  all &#8220;compelled by the Holy Spirit?&#8221; </p>
<p>We have not feared to speak of God or Jesus, but what about the Holy Spirit?  ~ the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you know Him, for He lives with you and will be in you ~ (John 14:17)  and again (seemingly harsh words but..) ~ if a man does not have The Spirit of The Messiah in him, this one does not belong to Him ~ (Romans 8.9) </p>
<p>He lives with you and will be in you..  &#8211; this, in the very least &#8211; is no small thing! </p>
<p>Then, </p>
<p>Come, Holy Ghost, our hearts inspire,<br />
let us Thine influence prove; </p>
<p>Source of the old prophetic fire,<br />
Fountain of life and love. </p>
<p>Come, Holy Ghost, (for moved by Thee<br />
the prophets wrote and spoke), </p>
<p>unlock the truth, Thyself the key,<br />
unseal the sacred Book. </p>
<p>Expand Thy wings, celestial Dove,<br />
brood o&#8217;er our nature&#8217;s night;</p>
<p>on our disordered spirits move,<br />
and let there now be light. </p>
<p>God, through the Spirit we shall know<br />
if Thou within us shine, </p>
<p>and sound, with all Thy saints below,<br />
the depths of Love divine.</p>
<p>(Charles Wesley)</p>
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		<title>By: John Adam</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47253</link>
		<dc:creator>John Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Merely excellent, Skip! :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merely excellent, Skip! <img src='http://skipmoen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael and Arnella Stanley</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47252</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael and Arnella Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always thought this guide is a good one. Thought i&#039;d share it. 

The Biblical Heritage Center&#039;s Informed Believer&#039;s Primary Guideline.

&quot;My Belief System will be large enough to include all of the facts;
I will be open enough to allow it to be tested;
and I will be flexible enough to change it
when I become aware of errors or new facts.&quot;
 of errors or new facts.&quot;


Created by Jim Myers circa 1988]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought this guide is a good one. Thought i&#8217;d share it. </p>
<p>The Biblical Heritage Center&#8217;s Informed Believer&#8217;s Primary Guideline.</p>
<p>&#8220;My Belief System will be large enough to include all of the facts;<br />
I will be open enough to allow it to be tested;<br />
and I will be flexible enough to change it<br />
when I become aware of errors or new facts.&#8221;<br />
 of errors or new facts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Created by Jim Myers circa 1988</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Moen</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47246</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip Moen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a very special rabbi friend who does exactly that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very special rabbi friend who does exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://skipmoen.com/2012/08/19/necessary-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-47244</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 15:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What does this mean for us?  It means that we always leave room for learning something new.  It means we don’t close the door on further debate.  It does not mean that everyone is right.  It means that we could all be wrong.  So we commit ourselves to loving God and caring for each – and vigorously debating all the rest.&quot;

We have a few sayings in our little fellowship.  
1.  &quot;We&#039;re so happy and grateful to discover we are wrong&quot; and 
2.  &quot;Nobody is wrong all the time&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What does this mean for us?  It means that we always leave room for learning something new.  It means we don’t close the door on further debate.  It does not mean that everyone is right.  It means that we could all be wrong.  So we commit ourselves to loving God and caring for each – and vigorously debating all the rest.&#8221;</p>
<p>We have a few sayings in our little fellowship.<br />
1.  &#8220;We&#8217;re so happy and grateful to discover we are wrong&#8221; and<br />
2.  &#8220;Nobody is wrong all the time&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald Mathias Dagenais</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald Mathias Dagenais</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Skip his word answers my previous question re yesterday&#039;s word. &quot;&quot;We all See in Part,Know in Part and Prophesy in Part&quot;&quot; only HOLY SPIRIT as Full Knowledge of The Word and HE DOES NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN BUT ONLY WHAT HE HEARS. &#039;&#039;John 16 ::13-15&quot;&quot;

GOD BLESS

Gerald M.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Skip his word answers my previous question re yesterday&#8217;s word. &#8220;&#8221;We all See in Part,Know in Part and Prophesy in Part&#8221;" only HOLY SPIRIT as Full Knowledge of The Word and HE DOES NOT SPEAK ON HIS OWN BUT ONLY WHAT HE HEARS. &#8221;John 16 ::13-15&#8243;&#8221;</p>
<p>GOD BLESS</p>
<p>Gerald M.</p>
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