The Men’s Group Trinity

Then King David said, “Call to me Zadok the priest, Nathan the prophet, and Benaiah the son of Jehoiada.” And they came into the king’s presence.  1 Kings 1:32  NASB

Prophet, Priest, King – There are only a few verses in the Bible that include all three words “prophet,” priest,” and “king.”  In fact, more than half of them are about a single incident – the delegation of Solomon as the true heir of the Davidic throne.  But the fact that this combination is so rare doesn’t stop us from proclaiming the male triumvirate.  Every man needs to be prophet, priest and king.  At least that’s what many have been taught.  The message is now so common that even Mark Driscoll of famed Mars Hill includes these three is his statement about the major themes of the Bible.

“The Bible has three main themes. Kings focus on the theme of stewardship. Prophets focus on the theme of sin. Priests focus on the theme of suffering. Kings appreciate knowing the numbers at their church and how resources are being stewarded. Prophets appreciate the teaching at their church and like hearing about what God and we are to do with sin. Priests appreciate hearing the stories of people loved and served through suffering. Kings are best with things, prophets are best with ideas, and priests are best with people.”[1]

Now I know that Mark is being dramatic and is generalizing, but is what he says actually true?  Do kings really focus on stewardship?  Do prophets focus on sin?  Are priests preoccupied with suffering?  It sounds good, but . . . when I look at the texts I find something else.  I find that the biblical idea of “king” is usually associated with rebellion and the denial of God’s sovereignty.  And when “king” is tied to Messiah, I’m not so sure it is about stewardship.  It seems to me that it is about power, rescue and deliverance.  If we want to talk about stewardship, then we should probably employ the Hebrew word for work (avodah).  We are all expected to work, worship and serve.  That’s what avad means and it is the focus of stewardship of God’s assets.

Prophet?  Are the prophets of Scripture focused on sin?  Again, I don’t think so.  Heschel convinces me that the prophets are men and women called to feel as God feels.  They are human barometers of the broken heart of YHWH.  They warn.  They cajole.  They agonize.  But a focus on sin?  No, I think they are much more focused on God.  Sin is a Christian problem.  Devotion to God is a Jewish problem.

And what about “priest”?  If I think that the role of the priest is to suffer, then why is it such a special, singularly significant task?  Anyone (and every follower) is called to suffer on behalf of the Messiah, but that doesn’t make everyone a priest.  A priest is an intercessor between God and another.  That is not the role of suffering.  That is the role of mediator.  Driscoll’s analysis is marked by a lack of appreciation for the office of the Levitical priesthood.  He sees “priest” only in terms of the Christ and that means the cross, i.e., suffering.  Eighty percent of the biblical text is sacrificed in the process.

We come to an odd conclusion.  The three roles are almost never found together in Scripture.  And none of the roles seem to fit Driscoll’s “three main themes.”  So where did he get this idea?  Where did he come up with the thought that kings are best with things, prophets with ideas and priests with people?  Look at the text.  Does that seem right to you?  Oh, it’s popular among men.  It makes us feel important.  It gives us “spiritual status.”  But is it biblical?  Or does it matter?

Topical Index:  prophet, priest, king, sin, stewardship, suffer, 1 Kings 1:32



[1] Mark Driscoll, http://marshill.com/2013/08/27/it-s-all-about-the-numbers?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=pastormark&utm_campaign=Pastor+Mark+Facebook

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Peter Alexander

“Thou art the man!” is about sin.

carl roberts

If we are made in His image, the ONE who is “Prophet-Priest-King,” (notice the Hebrew dashes, not Greek commas!), then we, as His ambassadors and representatives- each of us bear the personal responsibility of stewardship. ~ we all shall give account of ourselves to God! ~
This is affirmed in the parable of the “talents..” To one was given 10, another 5, and another 1. What are YOU doing (sir or m’am or self) with what God has given unto you?
And, as a personal reminder.. ~ to whom much is given, much shall be required! ~
Yes, this IS the day which our LORD has made, (and) I shall rejoice and be glad in it! Now, what do I “possess” (with an open and flat hand, btw..) that I may invest for the sake of His kingdom, and in His Name?
Prophet? Remember and speak His words.

Priest? Pray without ceasing! Pray (intercede) for one another!

King? – (Or the King’s servant and steward and son?) Leadership is influence. Who may I “influence” with a loving smile and a helpful, kind and compassionate hand today?

~ Let “this mind” be in you, which also was in Christ Jesus.. ~

Who “went about, – doing good?”

Jill

Are these concepts not summed up in the verse:

Micah 6:8

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy
and to walk humbly[a] with your God.

Do justly = king
love mercy = prophet
walk humbly with your God = priest

prophet and priest could be the other way around

Daria

“is it biblical? Or does it matter?” IT MATTERS! Preach it, Skip!

Pam

“is it biblical? Or does it matter?”

If it doesn’t then what the heck are we doing here anyway?

Michael

“Mark Driscoll of famed Mars Hill includes these three is his statement about the major themes of the Bible ….

Kings focus on the theme of stewardship. Prophets focus on the theme of sin. Priests focus on the theme of suffering.”

Hmmm

I think “themes” is probably the wrong word for Mark Driscoll to use in this context

Seems to me that Kings, Prophets, and Priests all “focus” on sin/laws to some extent

I tend to think that

– The King rules in name of God, at least in theory
– The Prophet sees what God wants and serves the King
– The Priest sees what God wants and serves the people

Suzanne

Interesting quote from Mark Driscoll — I’m not commenting on his church organization, indeed I know very little about it — but given that his organization is now eschewing the collection of numbers data, I found the following stats interesting from the latest National Congregations Study (“Fast Facts about American Religion” hirr.hartsem.edu Aug 28,2013): the median US Church has 75 regular attendees for weekly worship, and these churches account for 59% of the churches in the US. (The remaining 41% of congregations have much higher number of weekly participants.)

I tend to think this is an indicator of how most of us still find community — small groups that some people define (with disdain) as nothing more than large Sunday School classes (or in our case Shabbat groups). But doesn’t that show the one thing people yearn for within their church community is intimacy? And I know small groups are supposed to meet that need — been there and done that — and had way too many conflicts with the larger church hierarchy.

So does congregation size have implications for how King, Prophet and Priest are defined? It’s much harder to keep tabs on even slightly large numbers (try herding 40 Kindergartners on a field trip if you doubt me :)) In mega-churches, “Kings” don’t have time to focus on anything other than stewardship. Power, rescue and deliverance require intimate relationships. Even Yeshua didn’t try to intimately disciple more than 12. And He most definitely fits the King, Prophet and Priest roles.

Dorothy De Kok

Interesting discussion. I understand it like this:

King – rules
prophet – speaks God’s heart
priest – serves with praise and prayer

This is the perfect job description for each one of us; to rule over the enemy and defeat his works on earth (in the name of our Saviour); to speak what we hear God say to each other; to offer sacrifices of praise to our Father. If we fulfill all roles, we are on the right road.

(I am not Jewish and I don’t even have an idea where to begin using all the names you people have for God etc. But I thank Him that He has grafted me into His chosen people through the blood of His Son.)

Michael

prophet – speaks God’s heart
priest – serves with praise and prayer

Hmmm

Pretty much the same I think, but mine is more detailed

– The Prophet sees what God wants and serves the King
– The Priest sees what God wants and serves the people

Bruce Meyer

Isaiah 58:1. Cry aloud, do not hold back; lift up your voice like a trumpet; declare to my people their transgression; to the house of Jacob their sins.

This is, I think, a pivotal point of the prophetic canon, as opposed to your argument.

Michael

“prophets are men and women called to feel as God feels”

sho·far
a ram’s-horn trumpet used by ancient Jews in religious ceremonies and as a battle signal, now sounded at Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur.

Isaiah 58:

1 Cry aloud, don’t spare, lift up your voice like a shofar, and declare to my people their disobedience, and to the house of Ya`akov their sins.

2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways: as a nation that did righteousness, and didn’t forsake the ordinance of their God,

Hmmm

Seems like God tells the Prophet to express His anger at the people

For their disobedience and hypocrisy

Move over God seems to imply that the people are stupid

A King could be a mediator between God and the Prophet

Michael

“Move over God seems to imply”

Oops!

That must have been some sort of “Freudian slip”

I meant “Moreover God seems to imply”

But was probably thinking about the “Move Architecture” over at Aruba Networks

Please see “CEO Request to IT” below if you want to smile

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