Fire Sale

“Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?” Acts 8:36 NASB

What prevents me – Let me make a bold assertion. Most of the great unwashed are not Ethiopian eunuchs. You may smile to yourself, thinking that this statement is so obvious as to be comical. There aren’t a lot of eunuchs riding around today. But that isn’t quite the issue here. You see, the reason that the Ethiopian eunuch finds a place in Scripture is not because he was in the service of the queen. He is on this road at this particular time because he has been in Jerusalem worshipping. That tells us something very important; something so important that if we ignore it, we will never understand the biblical pattern of evangelism.

What does this small fact tell us about the eunuch? It tells us that he knew the God of Israel. It tells us that he knew the Torah. It tells us that he was observant. It tells us that he was seeking God through the Hebrew Bible. It tells us that he was not a neophyte or a pagan when he encountered Philip on the desert road. This man had prior biblical training. That is the only reason that explains why he was in Jerusalem worshipping during the required feast.

Notice that the eunuch’s question is about an interpretation of a passage of Scripture that he already knows. He is not a “seeker” in the contemporary sense of the word. This man is part of the culture of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is looking for meaning, not information. Once he understands that the Messiah is the focal point of the text that he has already received, then he is ready to make the commitment to follow his Messiah. That is the reason he requests baptism.

Most church attendees today are not even close to the position of this Ethiopian. They come without a history of interaction with the God of Abraham. They come directly from a pagan worldview, hauling it with them into an assembly (called the church) that unfortunately often accommodates itself to the same pagan worldview. They come without an understanding of God’s history with Man. Unlike the Ethiopian, when they arrive they are not given an explanation of a passage from a familiar prophet in the context of the faith of Israel. Instead, they are presented with a fire sale.

If you consider the usual conversion pattern of those who embraced the God of Abraham and His suffering servant, Yeshua the Messiah, you discover that most of the time those who embrace the Way were already adherents to the Torah. Of course, there are exceptions. The Philippian jailer (Acts 16). The thief on the cross (but, of course, he was probably Jewish). The Syro-Phoenician woman. There may be others. These exceptions merely underscore the common pattern. Men and woman who become committed followers of the Messiah usually did not arrive directly from pagan assumptions. They had a history with God – and God had a history with them. The usual pattern is the same process found in Matthew 28:19-20. The believer journeys through life (going), choosing those who will become his students of the Way (disciple), bringing them to the point of true confession and transformation (baptizing) so that they may continue to learn of God. This does not occur as a result of a one-night-stand crusade. This takes time. Even Yeshua spent three years bringing his closest disciples to the point where he could say, “I no longer call you servants but I declare you friends.” Let’s not forget that not a single disciple was a Christian even after the resurrection. They didn’t get it, even when they met the resurrected Messiah. They didn’t know what to do, so they went fishing.

The fire sale approach is built on a faulty model. It begins with the assumption that the goal of salvation is to get to heaven. With the pursuit of ticket-punching foremost in mind, the only real requirement is to bring people to the point of decision. In the fire sale model, what matters is the verbal confession that Jesus is the Christ. That seals the deal. That assures a ticket to ride to the heavenly gates. With heaven secured, transformed living becomes an option. Of course, it’s nice if the new convert actually becomes a decent, respectable, loving person, but what happens here and now is not really essential. It’s really all about heaven.

When you boil the fire sale model down to its foundation, you can see immediately that the urgency associated with its presentation is wrapped up in the assurance of heaven objective. After all, the poor, unsuspecting heathen might die in the next moment, sealing a fate in eternal punishment. Get that person saved! Push them to make a decision now before something terrible happens. Then rush them to baptism to make sure that there is no doubt about the ticket. Once you’ve won that soul, push on to the next, knowing that one more has been added to the roster.

There is an enormous difference between the fire sale and the idea of faithful living. The urgency of one is replaced by the patience of the other. The destination of one is replaced by the direction of the other. One is about ritual; the other about relationship.

You have friends and family who need help. You meet strangers who have lost their way. Which path will you choose?

Topical Index: Acts 8:36, baptism, evangelism

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Laura

And I would add there is a lot of fear with the fire sale model. It’s dressed up today with talk of love but you’re still going to hell if you don’t confess Jesus as your Savior. I think it is one of the saddest if not the most awful thing we have done to God.

Fear is the most powerful motivator. I say no to that. Let’s use love dressed in relationships as you so beautifully stated.

Rick Blankenship

While I was stil in the “church” and teaching Sunday School, I was continually stressing that there had to be more to our faith than reciting a “get out of hell” Free Card. As I look back, I realize I was being prepared to understand and accept the Torah and walk in The Way!

Beth

You are so right! It’s definitely a fire sale. Been there done that. Yet the Ethiopian eunuch reminds me that its the Christian world that may be close enough to actually cross over if they would be willing to accept the truth of the Scriptures. In some ways, it’s harder because seminary training is highly respected. People expect the truth to be found there. They think that a seminary trained person will properly interpret the Word and that one who has truly crossed over to Torah observance will lead them astray. In addition, too many New Testaments have been passed out all over the world and not enough Old Testaments. Readers don’t have the proper foundation from the Old to properly interpret the New. They don’t know that YHVH doesn’t want to be worshiped in the same manner as the pagans worshiped their gods. They read Revelation 21-23 and still think they will be living in heaven yet the New Jerusalem will come down to the renewed earth. People have to be ready for truth. The process to become a new wineskin is painful and shocking at times. It’s not for the weak because the new wine breaks the old wineskin. May the Father lead us to plenty of ready Ethiopian Eunuchs!

Beth

Sorry, I meant Rev 21-22. please edit me

Rosie

I think for the average person out there, they view what little they do know of the Old Testament as primitive and certainly view God as a violent God. I just heard someone yesterday say this very thing about how violent God was. And I find it difficult as well.

John Offutt

I think folks would have some idea about why God might view humanity as He does if they would read Michael Heiser’s book The Unseen Realm. I am not embracing all Heiser says as gospel, but it is a starting place for some serious searching for answers from God’s point of view. The first thing to grasp is that God does not care what you or I think about His management of His kingdom on earth or in heaven.

Kim

John, I’m just curious Are you saying this Michael Heiser knows what God’s point of view is …Wow I find people amazing sometimes. That a human being actually has the handle on God’s point of view! :))

Kim

Skip, I don’t know you. I was addressig my comments to John. I don’t know what you mean. Perhaps, you think I’m a Kim you know .

George and Penny Kraemer

Kim, very few of us on this forum know each other personally but it is open to appropriate comments from anyone to anyone else’s comment at any time. It works best if comments are directed immediately to the issue at hand rather than in the abstract with a new “string” that might become discombobulated.

In that context I would submit the following to you, “God regretted that He made man on the earth, and His heart was filled with pain.” Gen 6:6

I hope this illustrates the sort of point I think John and Skip were making and trying to help with IMHO, with any apologies necessary.

Hi George & Penny, I appreciate your response. But I was really interested in hearing from John..
Sometimes when you read something, it doesn’t come across the same as when you hear it.

So….I was really asking for clarification. And I was a little amazed at the statement.

Laura

I thought I might jump in here and say that IMHO if people are going to say things like:

“The first thing to grasp is that God does not care what you or I think about His management of His kingdom on earth or in heaven.”

Maybe they should preface that with a IMO.

Laura

People think God is violent and he can correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Skip has said God wipes out people. BUT I think other scholars might have a different take on that. Is God the one being violent or is it that God allows it?? Or is it just man??

And dare I ask it but isn’t it possible that we don’t have all the words or that even the Torah might be skewed as it was primarily if not all written by men. Isn’t that a clue that we may not have God’s Words??

And please no offense but anyone that might answer, please do so in a “relatable ” way. In other words so most folks have some idea what you are talking about! Thanks

robert lafoy

Hi Laura, when you queried as to whether it’s God, an allowance by God or just man, I’m not sure whether we can distinguish between the three. I know that sounds odd, but consider that if God is sovereign, it ultimately boils down to Him anyway. I would suggest that the issue revolves around intent and the understanding of the term violence. While one might say that God is violent because of the actions He performs or allows, one certainly wouldn’t consider a judge who condemns a serial killer to death as violent. Although the “act” of elimination may be violent, the intent is to restore order and peace to the society. Of course, the criminal who insists that he has a right to continue to engage in such activities will always protest it as violence, but it’s due to a self serving agenda. I hope that this is relatable in the manner you suggested.
As for the thought about the purity or existence of God’s word, that’s a bit longer conversation, which I would be glad to converse with you about if you’re willing. As for now, I hope this may help somewhat.

Seeker

Skip on the first reading of this TW I thought wow is this not gnostic view… Then reality is exegesis or spiritually not gnostic if anything else. And Torah or walk of faith is salvation. Know and do versus follow for support…

David F

“And Torah or walk of faith is salvation. Know and do versus follow for support…”

Great statement Seeker. That pretty much says it all.

Drew Harmon

Nobody ever lost a dime, selling fear!

Seeker

Nobody has every seen the Father but the Son came to declare,reveal or introduce Him. We are all called to good works in Christ that God has prepared since the beginning of the world.
Is the understanding of what we are called for knowing or Hearing that God is one or is it belonging to the peculiar nation that ensures that we hear…