Idioms of Nothingness

In labor there is profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty. Proverbs 14:23

Mere Talk – In Hebrew, nothing is real.  Okay, that’s a bit confusing.  What I mean is that the concept of “nothing” also has a certain reality.  Nothing isn’t no-thing.  It’s not the kind of empty, non-existent thing that we associate with “nothing.”  In Hebrew, “nothing” is real.

In Greek Platonic thought, “nothing” does not exist.  It isn’t a real thing.  It is a non-thing.  Nothing is non-being.  This concept of nothing is very much like the mathematical idea of zero.  Zero isn’t something.  It’s a “place-holder.”  The Babylonians first invented zero as a place-holder in the 3rd Century BC.  It eventually found its way into our number system in the 12th Century AD.  Our view of the world is based in this division between something and nothing, between being and non-being, between real and not-real.  In this view of the world, nothing is tied to non-being which is tied to not-real.

But the Hebrew view is different.  The fundamental building block of reality for Hebrew is not the “thing,” but the “word.”  Dabar “comprises all Hebraic realities:  word, deed and concrete object.  Non-being, nothing (no-thing), is signified correspondingly by ‘not-word’, lo-dahbar.”[1] With this shift in fundamentals, the Hebrew idea of nothing takes on a practical application.  The ‘not-word’ (lo-dahbar) is the equivalent of a lie.  It is not the truth of something spoken, a deed or an object.  It is real because it exists as a lie, but it is not real because it does not represent true reality.  The difference between Greek and Hebrew thought on this subject is immense.  Greek thought is concerned with non-being.  Hebrew thought is concerned with not-true.

Look at this verse in Proverbs.  The words translated “mere talk” are really davar-s’fatayim, literally “words of the lips.”  Notice that these are real words, but they have no truth in them.  They are profitless because they do not produce a deed, an object or a declaration that aligns with God’s reality.  They are lies.  They may not be lies because they are deliberately deceptive but they are lies nonetheless because they are not a reflection of God’s order of the world.  In this sense, from a Hebrew perspective, they are nothing.

Notice that the principle concern of the idea of nothing in Hebrew is a concern with the application of God’s truth to the world.  When something is “nothing,” it is nothing because it is not true to God’s character, not because it has no real existence.  Ancient Hebrews clearly knew when their hands were empty, when they had zero to grasp.  But they distinguished this concept of zero existence from the concept of nothing.  For the Hebrew, nothing is misalignment, not zero.  “Nothing” has a moral character.

Now apply this to our world.  How much of the activities of life in our Greek-based culture are really “nothing” from a biblical perspective?  How much of what we do is out of alignment?  How much of what we say is not true to God’s character?  How many of the things we prize, possess or pursue are “nothing” because they are not reflections of His order?

The Greek metaphysics convinces us that our concern must be focused on being or not being.  “To be or not to be, that is the question.”  But that isn’t the question.  The question is all about “nothing.”  The question is whether or not my life is dabar or lo-dabar, whether it is an expression of something or of nothing.  In the end, all lo-dabar will certainly come to nothing.

Topical Index:  nothing, lo-dabar, Boman, Proverbs 14:23, mere words


[1] Boman, Hebrew Thought Compared with Greek, p. 56.

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carl roberts

Word. (lol!!) “Sanctify them through Thy word, thy word is truth!!”

Poor ol’ Solomon.. The man who “had it all” and yet had “nothing!” A mere chasing after the wind! So rich, and yet- so poor!

So- what do we “possess” that makes us so rich? (the delights of “dahbar”- the word(s) of G-d!) Oh quickly, may I say -not “my” words- His words. “What saith the scripture?” lol! Yes, ahmein! Forever O LORD Thy word is settled in the heavens! Hallelujah!
Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of the LORD. (Matthew 4.4) “The words I speak unto you- they are spirit (breath) and they are life!” (John 6.63)
Word. – (Maybe it all depends on “who” is doing the speaking?) -just sayin’…
“So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.” (2 Corinthians 4.18) -Word.

John Adam

Skip, forgive my “pernickety-ness” regarding ‘zero’ as “only a placeholder’, but on the back of Charles Seife’s book “Zero – The Biography of a Dangerous Idea” we read:

“The Babylonians invented it, the Greeks banned it, the Hindus worshipped it, and the Church used it to fend off heretics. For centuries, the power of zero savored of the demonic; once harnessed, it became the most important tool in mathematics.”

I would also add that zero was invented before it was discovered…but that’s another story!

But your overall point is well-taken!
Blessings,
John

carl roberts
Drew

Shalom,

Then answered Yeshua and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do NOTHING of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Meaning the Son can only do The WILL of ELOHIM!

15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do NOTHING.

Hmmmm … and what was Yeshua all about … obedience … perfect and powerful!

Obedience = SOMETHING and Disobedience = Nothing

Brings a new meaning to the old phrase … “a whole lotta nothing going on”

Pam

This is a very interesting year on the biblical calender according to the sighting of the new moon in Israel. The new moon was sighted by several different groups at sunset Sept 10 marking the beginning of Yom Teruah on the solar calender at Shabbat Sept 11th. For sighting time and photo Click on the following link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xexpARDD5Bg&feature=player_embedded

This puts Sukkot on Shabbat Sept. 24/25 and Shemini Atzeret the 8th day (new beginnings) at Shabbat Oct. 2nd These are all the
Yom Ha Kippurim is on a Mon. Sept 20th. Not a Shabbat but the biblical day of fasting. Morn for those you love who don’t know their right hand from their left.

Pam

Sorry. I hit the send to soon. My point is that those of us who are keeping Shabbat will automatically be in the right mind (Focused on YHVH) at the right time for his blessing to pour out on us. Spend those days in constant praise as a congregation. The sacrifice of your lips for all He has done for you (beginning with your Exodus from Egypt) from sunset to sunset. He has made it easy to set these days apart this year. It is already the Sabbath! If you have not yet made a commitment to Shabbat make it now. You will be astonished at the way He will move Heaven and earth for you to make it possible. Test Him. Trust Him. Take a stand!

Pam

oops should be between my last two responses. Blogging is a totally new thing for me. sorry

Michael

Looking back at my undergraduate days at UCSD, the three books that have influenced my thinking most all had something to do with Nothingness.

“He it was who spread the North above the void,
and poised the earth on Nothingness.”
Job 26:7

“KING LEAR: ..what can you say to draw
A third more opulent than your sisters? Speak.
CORDELIA: Nothing, my lord.
KING LEAR: Nothing!
CORDELIA: Nothing.
KING LEAR: Nothing will come of nothing
King Lear, 1.1.92
Shakespeare

“Consciousness is a being, the nature of which is to be conscious of the nothingness of its being.”
Being and Nothingness
Jean Paul Sartre

And something to do with Sovereignty.

What sovereignty, what awe, is his
who keeps the peace at his heights!
Job 25:1-2

Ilze

Skip and all the others,

Can I ask a question in between?

I’m new to the forum and in a big learning curve regarding Torah-teachings. Somewhere I missed a beat right in the beginning though.

Your first paragraph uses the word Hebrew. And this is where I already got stuck.

What does the word “Hebrew” mean and where does it originate. The limited sources I have, suggests it means from the “the region beyond” referring to Abraham who came from the other side of the Euphrates (or a few other “other sides” that they can think of).

It was also suggested that the word “Hebrew” comes from “Eber” – the father of Peleg and Joktan. (Gen 10 – I like Gen. 10 very much – it explains so much about the world we live in, the mission efforts today and the coming of the Lord). IF it is true that the word Hebrew was derived from Eber’s name, I would like to know who the Hebrews are. Are they just the descendants of Peleg or are they also the descendants of Joktan?