Spiritual Epistemology: A Follow-up to Identity Theft

Spiritual Epistemology

 

I thought it might be important to attempt to articulate the problem with the claim that God will reveal the meaning of His word through the action of the Spirit.  I realize that this may step on some sensitive toes, but I think it must be said – and debated.  So, here goes.

 

In my travels I speak before a lot of people all over the world.  It is common among conservative Christian and Messianic groups to make the following claim:

 

“Spiritual things can only be known through the action of the Holy Spirit.  Yes, we should study the culture, the languages and all that, but in the end it is God who must reveal the meaning of the text to us.  We pray for enlightenment and when it comes we know that this is what the Scripture means because we have the witness of the Spirit in our own spirits.  The scholar’s work is important but it isn’t essential.  After all, God knows what He really meant to say and He can communicate that meaning directly to us if He wishes.”

 

This argument is appealing.  First, it seems to have Scriptural warrant (Paul does say that spiritual things must be spiritually discerned).  Second, it takes the onus of real, serious scholarship off the backs of the ordinary believer.  Now all I really need is prayer and a sort of spiritual intuition.  Third, it sounds so right.  It gives the credit to God and shows utter dependence on Him.  And fourth (and perhaps most importantly), it puts the true meaning of the text out of the arena of critical analysis.  After all, if God reveals it directly to you, who am I to say that you’re wrong.

 

This description of how we know things is what I would call Spiritual Immediacy.  It presupposes a direct conscious contact with the Spirit and it is self-authenticating.  It is very similar to knowing that I have a headache.  You don’t know directly that I have a headache because you don’t feel my actual pain, but no amount of argument on your part can convince me that  I don’t feel the pain.  My awareness of my own headache is direct and immediate and is not subject to your assessment of its veracity.

 

But for precisely these same reasons, I have no real assurance that you aren’t faking.  And that’s the problem.  There is no way for me to know for certain that you feel pain in your head.  Even if I run all the tests possible, I cannot have the same direct experience that you have.  Therefore, I must rely on the truthfulness of your report without actually having any way to absolutely verify it for myself.

 

Now this may not be of much consequence when it comes to your headache but it is of considerable consequence when it comes to understanding the meaning of a divine revelation.  If there is no independent, observable testing method for determining the truth claims about the meaning of a text, then the purported claim about its meaning is no more valid that a claim about your headache.  I can accept it on faith, but I could just as easily be deluded or deceived.  While it sounds laudable to accept the meaning of Scripture on faith, it is very dangerous – and not scriptural.  I do not have to provide a history of the number of doctrinal claims and faith statements made on the basis of someone’s direct conscious contact with God’s revelation of the meaning of a verse or passage.  History is replete with example of serious, and sometimes disastrous, examples of people and whole communities who thought they had a message from God but ended up fools – or dead.  Scripture is not so naïve as to assume that God alone provides meaning.  All Scripture comes clothed in the garments of culture and all culture is subject to the limited and sinful perspectives of men.  While it is noble to claim that God “superintends” His word so that the essential meaning is preserved, the history of human interpretation suggests otherwise.  The bottom line is that men interfere with the meaning of the text all the time.  They can’t help it.  They are subject to their own paradigms.  The only way to understand the text is to attempt to understand it within its own cultural context.  Whenever we encounter an epistemology that suggests God overrides cultural clothing in order to directly reveal the true meaning of the text to some individual or group, we better start looking for a king without clothes.

 

A strong part of the appeal of the direct conscious contact theory is its immunity from criticism.  No one likes to be wrong, especially when it concerns matters of faith.  If there is any area where we want certainty, it is the area of spiritual beliefs.  But our concern for certainty actually stands in opposition to the position of Scripture itself.  Faith is not certainty.  It is trusting  the evidence even if you don’t know absolutely for sure.  The attempt to derive certainty from a spiritual encounter is really a form of idolatry.  It says that knowing what is true is more important than knowing who made the claim.  We sometimes encounter this kind of “acceptable” idolatry in the form of the claim that the Word of God is the most important element of belief.  We end up worshiping the Bible rather than the One revealed in the Bible.

 

For these reasons, I am sensitive to the claim that “all I need to do is pray about this” or “I know that God revealed the meaning of this text to me because I feel so strongly about it.”  Unless these psychological states of mind are open to true examination and real criticism, they are useless for anyone except their author.  In fact, they have no meaning to anyone other than the author.  They are mystical affirmations of direct experiences with God, affirmations that no one else is able to share and consequently, no one else can understand.  If this is your position on interpreting Scripture, well and good.  Just don’t try to say anything that makes any sense to anyone else.  Do us all a favor, and simply shut up about it.

 

Let’s put this in a positive way.  First, the Bible recognizes that men will claim they have a revelation from God.  Therefore, it offers tests for these claims – and a long history of how many such claims were actually false in spite of the religious status of the one making the claim.  Second, the Bible does not ask for certainty.  It asks for trust – and not even trust in the text, but rather trust in the God behind the text.  Of course, the text tells us that we should trust this God, and in that sense it is circular, but it is not viciously circular since it also provides ample external evidence that such a God is trustworthy.  Third, the Spirit of the Lord is operative in drawing the reader into the mind of God, but that does not imply that it is not necessary to understand the text in its own context.  No verse in Scripture comes undressed.  God has chosen to reveal Himself within the hearts and minds of men and every man is subject to his own paradigm.  Therefore, while the application of a text may be cross-cultural, the meaning of a text cannot be for every text comes dressed in the language of its writers.  To suggest otherwise is to suggest that these men didn’t understand what they were writing.  We might claim that they didn’t understand the fullest implications of their own words, but that only means that we, from another time and place, see more than they saw.  It does not mean that the text is only understandable to us!  Finally, the history of textual criticism clearly demonstrates that men have intentionally and unintentionally altered, added to and subtracted from the words of the original authors.  Moreover, no scholar seriously doubts that the text as we have it today wasn’t arranged and rearranged according to the purpose of the original authors.  An appeal to direct conscious contact epistemology simply ignores all of this evidence.  And for what purpose?  So that we won’t have to deal with the inherent ambiguities that are part of a document that has been transmitted over thousands of years through the hands of many, many people.

 

Spiritual immediacy might work for headaches, but it will give headaches to anyone who seriously attempts to use it as a basis for understanding the meaning of Scripture.

 

 

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Ron Thomas

Boy, do I have people I’m going to share THIS with. Thanks Dr. Moen. You know the type. “God said it, I believe it, and that settles it!”. Great, but are you sure you UNDERSTOOD it?

Kay Harvey

Now I agree with that caution Skip and Ron.
But now I have had only a quick reading of this that is why I don’t say much because I don’t have time to read much. Now this is only looking back over 42 years with Him which means I have a long way still to go, but I found the Lord is not limited to man’s mistakes in order to get His Truth to you, but you need to be willing to search out where He has preserved it and that is where I agree with you Skip. Where the trust comes in is do I believe He can show me, and realizing that His own Spirit is not going to contradict His own writing. The Shepherd Himself has got to take you to His own writing and meaning, and that is where I found you may have to go through some weeds and thorns to get through everyone else’s blindspots. When Jesus came He walked around clearing up blindspots of the Pharisees who supposedly thought they had it all straight. I do not believe you can separate the Spirit from His own writing and come out right, nor can you just look at all the writings and leave out the Spirit and come out right because that is what the Pharisees did. He told them, “You search the Scriptures believing that in them you will have eternal life, but you will not come to Me.” They were in idolatry in dependence on the Scripture study without the Spirit and that can dead-end you too. If He is not the Shepherd of it taking you to the meaning, and it is all sorting out men’s minds or your head you will end up a knowledgeable sheep out in a far field somewhere. My heart has always wanted to be a Mary at His feet getting it staight from His own mind and He is big enough to get you to that treasure in the Bible He wrote and that He didn’t make mistakes in. He has no mistakes. It is humanity that makes the mistakes. I can guarantee you that the Author and His written Word have to agree and if it is just out of a man’s idea from his own head, He will bring it to an end. His Word does not change with our changes. Thats why He is the only Rock you can stand on.
Kay

Judith Jeffries

AMEN KAY !
The Holy Spirit is ‘teacher’ amongst other things. Yeshua sent Him! He alone enlightens the scriptures others teach to us and what we read ourselves. He has been faithful to teach me and lead me on His path for over 30 yrs.
I too study the word and have a continually seeking heart. The inference that we the ‘common people’ can not understand His Word to us unless we are taught by certain scholars seems similar to when the Catholic church did not allow their followers to read the bible at all so they could give their interpretation and thus be in control. (not saying you are doing that, Skip)
The Holy Spirit and His presence is very real to me and I will not ‘shut up’ about it because He is the only one really there for me on a consistent basis in all things. I ‘KNOW” Him !
Sorry if that puts me in the ‘DUH’ category to all the intellectual higher ups.

robert lafoy

” we better start looking for a king without clothes.”

Or perhaps a king with a fake set of clothes, aka UNDER acting: hypocrite, which is in reality not really clothes after all but nakedness.

Susan Rhorer

Dear Skip,

I think I would add one other element. That of community is important in actually doing the life talked about in the Word…Safety, knowing in part seeing in part. By the reflection and connection with others around us, we can see better and bring theology into flesh. I am grateful for the people the Lord has put around me and like a prism they touch different places in my life and put flesh on the Word. I am sure community is a biggie to you as well. Scholarly study without others to do life with gives us an artificial perspective and increased the head disproportionate (sp) to the heart.

Blessings,
Susan

Ester

I agree with the community aspect, where one can freely midrash/discuss topic that are relevant in our daily lives, from various perspectives.

Gabe

I think I get what you are saying Skip, you have seen an ‘evil under the sun’, and its result is a lack of unity between believers.

Personal revelation, although it may have true manifestations, has fractured the church with ‘truths’ that are relative to each believer. Now we cannot teach each other — whoever claims the greatest love, devotion, dependence, and personal correspondence with the divine must be “closer” to God. These have some sort of red phone that connects directly to God’s office. Then, if raw sentiment is not enough, we are relegated to swapping ‘miracle stories’, as proof of our connection with the divine. “Oh yeah Skip, I remember one time when I was totally out of gas and I prayed that…., and so I really think God blessed my decision to keep the Sabbath on Tuesday.”

I remember getting in a discussion with someone about the place of the “Old Testament” in the modern Christian’s life. It was friendly, but when scripture was could not be used to support their position, they turned to philosophy. When I started countering philosophically, they turned to the number of classes they had taken in philosophy (more than me). After saying, “I don’t know if you know this, but I’m ONE CLASS short of a degree in philosophy.”, they transitioned immediately to a story about how they had brought someone to accept Christ as their personal Savior. I was confused by the awkward transition until I realized that they were using the conversion story as part of their argument. It was their trump card — how could I argue against someone who had won souls for Christ? Game over. No unity.

That is departing the path to left. But what about departing the path to the right?

We should also be careful of “cultural context” to understand scripture. This should not be the new empiricism. Cultural context isn’t the unifying foundation for scriptural interpretation either. I’m here to learn more about the Hebrew mindset, but I’m NOT at other places which preach about ancient Middle-Eastern cultural context. Why? Because they don’t seem to be able to glean the ‘bad’ culture from the ‘good’ culture. They talk about hospitality and tribal covenants, but they are still somehow missing the mark.

If I am reading a Rabbinic text from the time of Jesus, I would first ask myself, “Is this something that Jeremiah, Elijah, Jesus, or Paul would argue for, or against?”. I think in many cases The Helper is necessary for that discernment. So, if the Holy Spirit is necessary for discerning the correct cultural context – does that put us back to square one — and personal revelation? I don’t think so.

I think it is a form of arrogance to believe that God will reveal every truth to you personally. This was along the lines of the sin of Simon in Acts 8, when he offered money for the power of the Holy Spirit. Compare this to Jonathan who looked not to Saul, but to David as chosen of God. His virtue was to recognize and cleave to the man that God had chosen.

In my life, I pray for wisdom — but instead of dreams where God explains everything to me. I seem to run across sources. I can’t articulate it well, but it’s been kind of like ‘divine appointments’ with people, and sometimes internet forums 😉 . More often than not, God uses people to do His work here on earth, and my job is to respect and learn from His chosen sources of His wisdom.

Gabe

Skip,

Thank-you for the thoughtful reply. Trying to communicate spiritual things – often makes me question my own literacy.

I’ll leave Genesis 1 out for now, since I am especially prone to getting side-tracked in Origins discussions.

I suppose this point is especially crucial to me right now, because I am trying to rebuilt my personal culture. This is no longer theoretical, I have children who are teenage years and approaching the teen years — and I need to decide very very soon how I am going to apply God’s Torah to my life and my family’s lives. I have erred on the side of inaction because I am scared of becoming ‘an extremist’, or misrepresenting God by ‘tithing on mint and cumin, and neglecting the weightier matters of the law’.

My wife is incredibly supportive and my children are not rebellious towards our ‘religious lifestyle’ as it is — so I feel I must be very cautious not to run ahead in ignorance. If I do,… I can taint their experience of what it means to be a follower of The Way. Therefore, “what the text says” is of extreme importance to me right now. I don’t want to go through a “Torah-phase” — I don’t mind being unconventional — but it must be the correct path.

I know God is concerned with our hearts, but many of His physical commands are there to help our hearts to love, to remember, and to keep His ways. His laws are not arbitrary, and even if wearing a tzit-tzit was cultural — I need all the help I can get.

Mark

Gabe,

Thank you for your post. I find myself in the same position. I am not good at articulating my thoughts (especially spiritual things), but you hit it on the head. It may be perfectioninsm or control that keeps me motionless. I do not like to make mistakes on matters of faith and instruction (especially with my/His children) but I know I must do something. I pray for discernment and wisdom. Thanks for your comments! I do a lot of listning. I think this is my first post.

Gabe

Thanks for weighing-in, Mark. Nice to know I’m not the only one having a bit of trouble implementing this stuff. I hope you post again soon.

Kay Harvey

I would just like to go back to reply to the reply sent to my box and say I met the Lord at 15 in the garage which was a place I would not be noticed since I also had a cat there also. It was a desperate situation and when He began answering my prayers intimately, the first thing He did was give me a hunger to read His Word. There was no one to tell me I ought to, or I needed to. I had no outside influence of a church organization at the time. He shared with me through it Himself and it was like hearing from my closest friend. Nor did He take me into a building right off. He made sure I had a very intimate awareness of His precense in my life and then He interduced me to another 15 year old strong believer who also lived in a desperate situation with an alcoholic mother that she went home each day and drug her mom down the hall to put her in bed. Her mom died our senior year in highschool. She invited me to her youth group and through that small body of believers in this church I was water baptized and grew some, but I believe He started me alone with me, so later in life if all other Christian props, organizations and people failed me, I would not lose my intimate fellowship with Him.
Years later with the Lord progressing me through several churches with Him using aspects of them to grow me, He got to a point where the council of this pastor would have lead to my death if I had listened to him tell me to go back to eating everything I had eaten (unclean food according to Lord) because he believed the biochemist nutritionist believer that was saving my life who told me not to eat it, was a cultist. This was a mega church pastor telling me I was out of line according to his exergise of the Word. I went to the Lord personally because at that point I was physically witnessing the worms from the pig I had eaten coming out of me, as this biochemist cleaned out the mess I had believed was ok to create according to what exergise I had been taught for years by studied men who were suppose to know His Truth. I asked the Lord to show me the blind spots in this theology and He began to reveal His answers to a lady like me who was considered to be the blind one. I had nothing to defend myself because I had impacted my lymphatic system into a solid brick wall with garbage and I was slowly starving to death, and no doctor knew how to fix it. While this biochemist was in process of saving my life, he had to take off the garbage and keep me alive long enough to rebuild my lymphatic system and I was at 65 pounds before it began to lift. So I looked like death and they thought he was killing me. At that point the Lord said, “You follow Me” and I knew He had sent the biochemist believer who I found nothing wrong with what he said and the Lord kept confirming him. It took three years to fix me and everything that biochemist said proved out, though he said it was still a miracle of God I lived. The most painful part was that preacher stood in the pulpit and slandered the man who God was using to save my life, and brothers and sisters in the Lord wanted me to go back to the garbage so they could feel fine about what they wanted to do. I never critized them or the pastor, but I don’t teach what I haven’t had to go to the cross over and what He has not proved out to me personally. I had to study that one out for myself and yes He did use some other people who had also asked the same questions who had asked Him before I did. God is able to move heaven and earth to tell anyone His mind if they want to know. I will listen to other people’s light from Him about His Word because I won’t get it all at once by myself and neither will anyone else, but I learned to take the council of men before God and ask Him, not take what He has shared with me personally before men and ask their evaluation. He has the final Word and can tell a man in the desert with a dream if He needs to, and that doesn’t mean good studiers like Skip are not needed, because God has shown him a lot of His treasure. I use to be quite submissive to whatever the preacher said because he was the one who was suppose to know. I would be dead today if I had not obeyed the Lord to follow Him first. Oh, and a good reference article that covers every Scripture in the Bible on that subject that I encountered, that I found two years ago is the article on http://www.pointsoftruth.com/foodlaw.html. There is more Light on that too, but it is a good thorough study that Larry Lasiter did and you can tell it was with the Holy Spirit. I was 29 when I went through all that and am 58 so it has been a long time, and the Lord has added more as I went. Bless Him for all the disclosure of Himself that He desires to give all His children.

Kay

Judith Jeffries

Once again Kay I so know what you are talking about and appreciated reading some o fyour story.
I would like to communicate with you further if that would be agreeable to you. If so please let me know via this site and I will give you my email address. This is very important to me
Thanks so much
Judith

Ester

Hi Kay,
Appreciate what you have so openly shared. Yours is a wonderful testimony of YHWH’s hand upon your life personally. Some of us can testify to that.
I can feel YHWH’s warmth and love around me, even though no one has told me about him. My spirit would leap with joy whenever I hear hymns played on the piano on my way home from school.

It is the Spirit that quickens, or gives life, the letter kills. 2 Cor 3:6 , as the letter can be misinterpreted, mistranslated, and mis-understood as in a cultural context, or paradigm mindset.
We are gleaning from many sound teachers we have around us, being careful not to swallow the bones with the meat, that means we need to be grounded at least on a firm foundation of truth on the surface level of the Bible. That is true.
Thank you for posting the link too. I will be passing it on. :-))
Blessings to you.

Kay Harvey

thats fine Judith. Due to my job and it just being me to maintain all here, I don’t often have much time to share but am willing to try to respond.
My e-mail is khsunbeam@msn.com

Kay

Ester

One recent example of such a case expressed in this article:-
I was invited to a Messianic ‘Jew”s house to stay over in her newly moved-over place.
I took with me Jim Staley’s Identity Crisis DVD to bring her over to Hebraic mindset.
After watching it, she got so excited, she invited her church-going friends over to watch the DVD.
Five minutes into the DVD, one of her friends interrupted the viewing by exclaiming she didn’t feel right in her spirit!!! That she had to say something. Her spirit, or whose spirit? I knew it was her spirit.
It was the usual church stuff-Paul said this, and that, and a whole lot of false doctrines she received from
churches. One said the food can be cleansed by prayer! It went on from one person to another affirming their own beliefs. I couldn’t get a word through, they were armed to defend, not to hear.

Gary Lee Corns

Bravo!
Lots to digest.