For This Purpose

“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”  John 12:32  NASB

Will draw – First we need some background.  Back up one verse and see how the opening statement fits this conclusion.  “Now judgment is upon this world; now the ruler of this world shall be cast out.”  Who is Yeshua talking about?  The Devil?

We need to recognize that the Tanakh has almost nothing to say about “the Devil.”  Its sparing use of ha-satan indicates that this person (if we can even use this word) is best described as “the adversary” or “the accuser,” and his role is carefully circumscribed and assigned by YHWH.  He is not a free-wheeling, super powerful bad guy, reeking havoc on everyone and everything.  Basically, he does what God assigned him to do.

By the time we get to Yeshua’s first century view, more has been added to the role of ha-satan, but it is still a far cry from the typical Christian view of Satan.  In fact, most of our ideas about Satan come from the Dark Ages.  It takes a Christian paradigm shift to interpret Genesis 3 as an incarnation of Satan, to see Lucifer in Isaiah as Satan and to identify the dragon in Revelation as Satan.  We should probably note that Christian imagery of Satan typically associates him with the body of a pig or a goat.  Where did those images come from?  Can you guess?

If we follow the usual Christian orientation, Yeshua’s statement about the “ruler of this world” becomes a circumlocution of Satan.  But is this necessary?  Put yourself in the place of the audience when Yeshua spoke these words.  Who would you think of as the melech (ruler, king)?  Would you think of ha-satan, the obscure functionary of YHWH, or would you think of Caesar, the Emperor of the whole known world?   What would the words mean to the first audience that heard them – the Jews of the first century?  Would they conjure up images of red tails, pitchforks, half-goat, half-man Philistine or Canaanite male gods?  Would they think like Dante?

If the statement about the “ruler of this world” is a description of Caesar, then the verse about being lifted up changes as well.  There is little doubt that Yeshua is referring to the crucifixion but we must remember that crucifixion is a Roman symbol.  It is, in fact, the paradigm Roman symbol of power over the Jews.  If Yeshua is speaking to an audience that associates power with Rome, then His statement that the ruler of this world will lose all his power when the paradigm symbol of that power becomes a reality in the life of Yeshua changes quite a bit about what we think.  The power of the Roman cross is the power over life and death.  Yeshua’s crucifixion brought that power to an end.  The Emperor’s claim is finished.  The kingdom of Rome has ended.  It has been replaced by a Kingdom that will never end because its King will never die.

Why will all men be drawn to the one who is lifted up?  Because without this King, without this victory, death still holds the power.  All men will come because no man wants to die.

We need to carefully note that what Yeshua says seems to contradict an earlier statement.  That statement is that no one comes to Yeshua unless the Father draws him.  But now He says that He will draw all men.  How can both be true?  The first statement about the Father is a statement about the role that YHWH plays in attracting men to the Son.  The second statement is about the role that the victory over death plays in the hearts of men.  One pushes.  The other pulls.

Finally, notice the hypothetical condition of this statement.  “If I be lifted up.”  Apparently the event is not inevitable (but notice that the ESV changes the translation to “when” making it a foregone conclusion).  If it happens, its impact changes the world.  But even Yeshua sees that it is possible that it will not happen.  It must be a choice.  Men are drawn to the victory over death, all men, by the way, not just Jews, because death is the universal problem.  Sin as a universal problem only makes sense within a context that recognizes sin.  But death affects everyone regardless of theology.

If I am lifted up,” then I will draw (the Greek is helkyso).  The verb is future, active, indicative.  The action will occur sometime in the future and will affect everyone.  It has the sense of “dragging.”  Whether you and I want to or not, the very idea of a man who comes back from the dead is something we cannot ignore.  We have to know what is beyond the grave.  Every religion speaks about this.  Only one offers proof.  The crucifixion and the empty tomb are about power – power that only Yeshua can wield.  Atonement might be accomplished by even fine flour (see Leviticus 14:21), but victory over death resides with no one else.

By the way, if the crucifixion destroys the power of death and death is the final stronghold of the enemy, then why do we credit the accuser with so much power and control?  Who is he anyway?

Topical Index:  lifted up, draw, helkyo, crucifixion, death, Satan

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Brett

Interesting teaching this morning Skip. Thanks.

yetzer hara = ha satan?

Also, it is still unclear to me what is meant by this paragraph:
We need to carefully note that what Yeshua says seems to contradict an earlier statement.
That statement is that no one comes to Yeshua unless the Father draws him. But now He
says that He will draw all men. How can both be true? The first statement about the
Father is a statement about the role that YHWH plays in attracting men to the Son. The
second statement is about the role that the victory over death plays in the hearts of men.
One pushes. The other pulls.
Am I just being dense, or did I miss something in an earlier post? It feel like you are saying something very interesting here.

Thanks

Judi Baldwin

Hi Brett,
Your question…”How can BOTH be true?”
My guess would be…”Because, the Father and Yeshua are ONE.”
I can think of no other explanation.

Brian Toews

As I keep studying along with you skip and company,i realize more and more that there are a lot of things that didn’t take place at the cross.The theif didn’t meet Yashua that evening in heaven.It was not a transition for replaceing Isreal by the church.Salvation did not start here.On and on I could go.And now I wonder if I have been giving satan to much credit or assumed he had more power than he actually has.I have been taught that he is the prince of this world and almost as powerful as God.If the tanak puts him only as an accuser why should I think he has more power,than he actualy has.Ps and off topic,Is saveing money for pilgrimage considerd titheing?

carl roberts

Who’s Your Daddy?

~ and when you pray, say (ABBA) Father.. ~

We should probably note that Christian imagery of Satan typically associates him with the body of a pig or a goat. Where did those images come from? Can you guess?

Friends, are we “capable” or remembering these three words? – “IT IS WRITTEN!!!”

~we are not ignorant of his devices.. ~

Satan is a liar. And he is good at what he does. Satan is a thief and he is a practiced thief. He can and he will, steal our joy! Satan is a murderer and loves the thrill of the kill. Satan has been (compared to) a roaring lion, roaming about, – seeking whom he may devour.

But let us quickly call to our remembrance, Satan IS a defeated foe!!

The sinless Lamb who is from God, pulled the teeth from this created creature at Calvary!!

Why do we need to guess when we have the history of hasatan written down in the word of God? Satan is not a pig or a goat, but he is one of God’s created creatures, the fallen angel Lucifer or “Light-bearer.”
His sin was the same sin of many, the sin of pride. “I will exalt my throne, I will be like the El Elyon..”
He was so blinded by pride, he (most erroneously) thought “Thou sealest up the sum, Thou art perfect in perfection and beauty” was written for him! He failed (an “epic failure!”) to give unto the LORD the glory due His Name.
Sorry satan, “it is NOT about you!” From the beginning, from “our” beginning, He has been our Adversary and he is (still, today) the Accuser of the brethren. Satan LOVES the blame game! If we ever hear a voice saying, “you’re no good, you’ll never amount to anything, etc..” – this “voice” does not come from Above. To this very day, He still loves to “accuse” and to “blame!” and to “condemn!” Remember? He is a LIAR!! How many lives have been destroyed by a lie?
Ahh.. but (Hallelujah!) WHAT DO THE SCRIPTURES SAY?? (sorry for the shout, but that’ how we roll! ~ Shout unto God with the voice of triumph!! ~ Hosanna to the KING!! ~

~ Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us! ~ (Romans 8.34)

A pig? A goat? A slimy (or shiny) serpent? No. nol and no. This, dear friends, is one who APPEARS (yes, appearance is everything?) as an “Messenger of light!” Oh, trust me, please! And WORSHIP ME!!!
Ain’t gonna happen. There is ONE and only ONE who is worthy of our worship!! Lest there be any confusion or cloudiness, we KNOW tHis Name!! The Light of the world, and the Name which IS above ALL names!!
Which is greater? The creature? Or the Creator? More “good news!” for us.. Please, please remember!
Christ defeated “public enemy #1” as a Man, the “Second adam!! Three words, it is imperative, we MUST remember! – “it is written!”

~and they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death ~ (Revelation 12.11)

Michael

Job (Hebrew Names Version)

1:6 Now it happened on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, that Ha Satan also came among them

1:8 The LORD said to Ha Satan, “Have you considered my servant, Job? For there is none like him in the earth, a blameless and an upright man, one who fears God, and turns away from evil.”

John (Hebrew Names Version)

10:36 Do you say of him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God?’

Hmmm,

It seems to me if one reads John in the context of Job

We see Jesus in a different light and Ha Satan as well

In Job, we can almost see Ha Satan as one of the “sons”

Ha Satan is close to and on good terms with God in Job

And God clearly wants to be acknowledged by Ha Satan

God boasts to Ha Satan about the “ideal” behavior of Job

In God’s eyes, Job is the very model of man

Ha Satan serves as an adversary, by testing Job’s faith

God, Ha satan, and Job are all part of the same community

In John, we can substitute Jesus for Job

In John, Jesus says:

Is it not written in your Law

“I said, you are gods

So the Law uses the word “gods”

Of those to whom the word of God was addressed

In John, Jesus is persecuted for saying “I am the son of God”

Seems to me Job could have said the same thing

Michael and Arnella Stanley

While I understand and agree with the point you make regarding the victory of the resurrection which freed believers from the threat of death wielded by ‘Caesar’s cross’ , I would expect that many of Yeshua’s listeners were also aware of the reality of demonic activity (having seen both Yeshua and his disciples cast out demons and heard Yeshuas’ teachings), and would therefore have quickly understood Yeshua’s reference to the “ruler of this world” as satan and not Caesar . Even today believers are engaged in REAL satanic battles and are victorious in them because of Yeshua’s triumph over the enemy as evidenced by the resurrection. Believers, both then and now, equally testify that “the ruler of this world ” is NOT primarily a governmental leader of flesh and blood, (though satan can work through them) nor does any true believer who has wrestled with demonic realities “conjure up images of red tails, pitchforks, half-goat, half-man Philistine or Canaanite male gods”. The Scriptures, the testimonies of both 1st century Jews and of many believers today, show a level of spiritual insight regarding satan and his kingdom which you seemingly overlook. Some here can no doubt testify that there is an experience of warring in the spirit “against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places” that cannot be minimized or explained away. Michael

Christopher Slabchuck

The accuser is both the one who signifies and that which is signified. It is collective and universal in useage as well as personal.