Have to disagree with you on this one, the elevates mans achievements! I would sooner sit atop a mountain (as i oft do) and there gaze upon God’s handy work. Shalom Simon
Mark Beauvais
I guess that was supposedly the original point, right?
Ric
Sorry Skip,
I agree with Simon. This does the opposite of directing me “to think about the majesty of God.” With all the pagan influence brought in I am no more inspired to God’s majesty than if it were a photo of a Buddhist temple or an ancient obelisk. Perhaps inspiring me to think about God’s mercy would be more appropriate! Now, put up some of your lion photos or butterflies or flowers and we can talk about majesty!
Thomas Elsinger
Some of us can, indeed, put aside the icons and relics. We have nothing to fear from these likenesses and images. And we can peacefully “think about the majesty of God.” The rest of us, especially those of us steeped in other teachings and traditions, have difficulty seeing the icons and relics as…well, as mere icons and relics! They seem to exert a certain power, demand a particular fear. Perhaps this is an instance of Paul’s “meat sacrificed to idols” issue. If the setting does not bother your conscience, so be it. If the setting does bother your conscience, leave it.
Chuck Reed
I am repulsed, not inspired. But my first reaction is, indeed, gorgeous, awesome. Then I think of the poor who remained poor to support that (IMHO) collossal idol and I realize the depth of my revulsion. I was tempted to resond earlier to the pictures of the monastery but two in a row was more than I could quietly let go by.
Donna Dozier
Sorry, but it leaves me cold too. It reminds me of the National Cathedral. First time I went there, I saw rows of gold-layered statues and alcoves, donated by people who were the poorest of poor in many cases. Totally opposite of what our God intended, I believe. All seems to showcase worship of the creature rather than the creator.
Renee
Must agree with Simon here Skip. Thus only reminds me of the Tower of Babel. I came out of Babylon to serve the One True Yah. This and others like it only remind me of man’s failure to seek the Way, the Truth and the Life. It’s more like a crypt for the walking dead. If Y’shua didn’t admire the craftsmanship and inspiration of the temple built in His day, and He said its stones would fall, why do men still seek to admire the work of their hands? This work and others like it are luciferian in my opinion. The icons etc. have no power but the principalities and dominions and world forces that build such things are the same that caused Israel to build the Golden calf. Moses was so appalled that he broke the tablets. Things such as this brings judgement and that should bring us to our knees rather than elevate our egos. This ugly thing is no different than the shining serpent that tempted Eve to admire and consume the fruit of knowledge. It looks good, may even feel good, but it is death. Let’s stay consistent with the Way. Just look around, the Kingdom is near! Be inspired by only that which comes from His hand. The adversary has always tempted man to look upon something else and call it G-D’s. Y’shua suffered and died, in part, to lead us away from golden calves. He definitely would disagree with you as we’ll!
Daria
Actually, just a very quick glance at the wickedness depicted in this photo sends chills down my spine. YHVH protected me, even in my conception, even in my childhood, even in my teen years when I had NEVER SEEN A BIBLE to turn continually from the witchcraft of Catholicism.
“For freedom Christ has set us free. Stand fast, therefore, and do not submit again to the yolk of slavery.”
Michael
William Blake. 1757–1827
489. The Tiger
TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies 5
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart? 10
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp 15
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears,
And water’d heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee? 20
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction
Blake explains that,
“Without Contraries is no progression.
Attraction and Repulsion,
Reason and Energy,
Love and Hate,
are necessary to Human existence.
From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil.
Good is the passive that obeys Reason.
Evil is the active springing
from Energy.
Good is Heaven.
Evil is Hell.”
Carolyn Camfield
i agree with all the others. Looks like a fancy department store to me. No inspiration
Ester
Same here as with what all the rest of the folks have expressed.
These would be comparable to the Indian, Thai, Myamar etc. temples.
Atmosphere would be the same, repulsive, if I may say so, Skip.
To me, there is no beauty there, nor quietness, as my spirit would be so troubled.
A sense of something else instead….
Michael
“Put aside the icons and relics from outside the faith and sit quietly here for awhile. How can you not be directed to think about the majesty of God?”
Hmmm
As beautiful as the photograph is, with its blues, golds, stone grey arches and pillars
Actually being in the beautiful cathedrals is more awe inspiring
Than almost anything in North America but nature itself
For me there is nothing particularly pagan about a Catholic church
But then I might be inspired by God’s majesty
In a Buddhist temple or an ancient obelisk
robert lafoy
It inspires me!! albeit in a backwards manner.
Renee made mention above, concerning Babylon, which is exactly where my mind went when I first viewed this picture. The difference, I suppose, would be that what was brought to the front of my heart and mind is the statement of God concerning those who were doing the building, “See, the people are one (echad) and the language one (echat) toward all of them, and this they are beginning to do! And now, not will be restrained from them all which they have imagined to do”…….
What inspires me is that with all the gifts that are made manifest in those created in the image and likeness of God, creativity, structure, order, beauty and a myriad of others, we often tend to use them for self gratification, evil, and oppression. Yet, He still sees us as redeemable.
What I see in this building is a near perfect balance of massive structure and the intricacies of fine art, much resembling ourselves, right down to the misdirected motivation.
One of my favorite portions of scripture is that concerning Paul and the “un-named” god. It may have been tempting to ridicule those who had stood it up in it’s place, after all what can be said about a people who are so insecure in their religious practice that they had to erect a “cover all” just in case! Yet Paul, in the grace endowed to him, refused to ridicule, and instead used the very thing that was certainly a disgrace to God and men, to preach the good news of reconciliation to the living God through Yeshua.
I tire of the condemning nature that desires to well up in me, were it that our pillars were adorned as beautifully as this building, only with the testimonies (adah-Pslm 119:1- in reference to adornment) of YHWH, truth, mercy, judgement and love.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF THOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS: (caps mine) otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. (KJV)
YHWH bless you and keep you…….
Judy Kincer
YHWH’s detailed instruction to Moses in regard to constructing the most significant piece of the Temple…God’s Lamp Man’s Light…title of John D. Garr’s book, is replaced by another design. We have literally been robbed of our Hebraic heritage and disconnected from the richness and fatness of the root for so long we have become enemic. God’s symbols for teaching and faith are literally unknown to mainstream Christianity. Of course I see beauty in this picture…but I also see pain… separation…distance…in all the beauty something is missing. Missing is the Torah scroll, the Word, adorned with crowns…the lampstand beaming with light…made of pure gold…poured from the refiners fire and hammered into shape…one hammered work! And when we all are healed by God to be of one mind and of one accord in Spirit and truth…we will become as one hammered work with a light so bright it will be seen around this dark old world! I look forward to the day when all things are restored and in their rightful place.
Renee
Beautifully expressed Judy. And now I am inspired, thank you!
Have to disagree with you on this one, the elevates mans achievements! I would sooner sit atop a mountain (as i oft do) and there gaze upon God’s handy work. Shalom Simon
I guess that was supposedly the original point, right?
Sorry Skip,
I agree with Simon. This does the opposite of directing me “to think about the majesty of God.” With all the pagan influence brought in I am no more inspired to God’s majesty than if it were a photo of a Buddhist temple or an ancient obelisk. Perhaps inspiring me to think about God’s mercy would be more appropriate! Now, put up some of your lion photos or butterflies or flowers and we can talk about majesty!
Some of us can, indeed, put aside the icons and relics. We have nothing to fear from these likenesses and images. And we can peacefully “think about the majesty of God.” The rest of us, especially those of us steeped in other teachings and traditions, have difficulty seeing the icons and relics as…well, as mere icons and relics! They seem to exert a certain power, demand a particular fear. Perhaps this is an instance of Paul’s “meat sacrificed to idols” issue. If the setting does not bother your conscience, so be it. If the setting does bother your conscience, leave it.
I am repulsed, not inspired. But my first reaction is, indeed, gorgeous, awesome. Then I think of the poor who remained poor to support that (IMHO) collossal idol and I realize the depth of my revulsion. I was tempted to resond earlier to the pictures of the monastery but two in a row was more than I could quietly let go by.
Sorry, but it leaves me cold too. It reminds me of the National Cathedral. First time I went there, I saw rows of gold-layered statues and alcoves, donated by people who were the poorest of poor in many cases. Totally opposite of what our God intended, I believe. All seems to showcase worship of the creature rather than the creator.
Must agree with Simon here Skip. Thus only reminds me of the Tower of Babel. I came out of Babylon to serve the One True Yah. This and others like it only remind me of man’s failure to seek the Way, the Truth and the Life. It’s more like a crypt for the walking dead. If Y’shua didn’t admire the craftsmanship and inspiration of the temple built in His day, and He said its stones would fall, why do men still seek to admire the work of their hands? This work and others like it are luciferian in my opinion. The icons etc. have no power but the principalities and dominions and world forces that build such things are the same that caused Israel to build the Golden calf. Moses was so appalled that he broke the tablets. Things such as this brings judgement and that should bring us to our knees rather than elevate our egos. This ugly thing is no different than the shining serpent that tempted Eve to admire and consume the fruit of knowledge. It looks good, may even feel good, but it is death. Let’s stay consistent with the Way. Just look around, the Kingdom is near! Be inspired by only that which comes from His hand. The adversary has always tempted man to look upon something else and call it G-D’s. Y’shua suffered and died, in part, to lead us away from golden calves. He definitely would disagree with you as we’ll!
Actually, just a very quick glance at the wickedness depicted in this photo sends chills down my spine. YHVH protected me, even in my conception, even in my childhood, even in my teen years when I had NEVER SEEN A BIBLE to turn continually from the witchcraft of Catholicism.
“For freedom Christ has set us free. Stand fast, therefore, and do not submit again to the yolk of slavery.”
William Blake. 1757–1827
489. The Tiger
TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
In what distant deeps or skies 5
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?
And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart? 10
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?
What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp 15
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?
When the stars threw down their spears,
And water’d heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee? 20
Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom
The tigers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction
Blake explains that,
“Without Contraries is no progression.
Attraction and Repulsion,
Reason and Energy,
Love and Hate,
are necessary to Human existence.
From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil.
Good is the passive that obeys Reason.
Evil is the active springing
from Energy.
Good is Heaven.
Evil is Hell.”
i agree with all the others. Looks like a fancy department store to me. No inspiration
Same here as with what all the rest of the folks have expressed.
These would be comparable to the Indian, Thai, Myamar etc. temples.
Atmosphere would be the same, repulsive, if I may say so, Skip.
To me, there is no beauty there, nor quietness, as my spirit would be so troubled.
A sense of something else instead….
“Put aside the icons and relics from outside the faith and sit quietly here for awhile. How can you not be directed to think about the majesty of God?”
Hmmm
As beautiful as the photograph is, with its blues, golds, stone grey arches and pillars
Actually being in the beautiful cathedrals is more awe inspiring
Than almost anything in North America but nature itself
For me there is nothing particularly pagan about a Catholic church
But then I might be inspired by God’s majesty
In a Buddhist temple or an ancient obelisk
It inspires me!! albeit in a backwards manner.
Renee made mention above, concerning Babylon, which is exactly where my mind went when I first viewed this picture. The difference, I suppose, would be that what was brought to the front of my heart and mind is the statement of God concerning those who were doing the building, “See, the people are one (echad) and the language one (echat) toward all of them, and this they are beginning to do! And now, not will be restrained from them all which they have imagined to do”…….
What inspires me is that with all the gifts that are made manifest in those created in the image and likeness of God, creativity, structure, order, beauty and a myriad of others, we often tend to use them for self gratification, evil, and oppression. Yet, He still sees us as redeemable.
What I see in this building is a near perfect balance of massive structure and the intricacies of fine art, much resembling ourselves, right down to the misdirected motivation.
One of my favorite portions of scripture is that concerning Paul and the “un-named” god. It may have been tempting to ridicule those who had stood it up in it’s place, after all what can be said about a people who are so insecure in their religious practice that they had to erect a “cover all” just in case! Yet Paul, in the grace endowed to him, refused to ridicule, and instead used the very thing that was certainly a disgrace to God and men, to preach the good news of reconciliation to the living God through Yeshua.
I tire of the condemning nature that desires to well up in me, were it that our pillars were adorned as beautifully as this building, only with the testimonies (adah-Pslm 119:1- in reference to adornment) of YHWH, truth, mercy, judgement and love.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, IF THOU CONTINUE IN HIS GOODNESS: (caps mine) otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. (KJV)
YHWH bless you and keep you…….
YHWH’s detailed instruction to Moses in regard to constructing the most significant piece of the Temple…God’s Lamp Man’s Light…title of John D. Garr’s book, is replaced by another design. We have literally been robbed of our Hebraic heritage and disconnected from the richness and fatness of the root for so long we have become enemic. God’s symbols for teaching and faith are literally unknown to mainstream Christianity. Of course I see beauty in this picture…but I also see pain… separation…distance…in all the beauty something is missing. Missing is the Torah scroll, the Word, adorned with crowns…the lampstand beaming with light…made of pure gold…poured from the refiners fire and hammered into shape…one hammered work! And when we all are healed by God to be of one mind and of one accord in Spirit and truth…we will become as one hammered work with a light so bright it will be seen around this dark old world! I look forward to the day when all things are restored and in their rightful place.
Beautifully expressed Judy. And now I am inspired, thank you!