To Cut or Not to Cut

For in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.  Galatians 5:6  NASB

Circumcision – Given the choice, most men remember Shechem (Genesis 34).  The very idea of adult circumcision causes pain.  So they run to this verse, and others like it, claiming that it really doesn’t make any difference.  “As long as I have Jesus in my heart, I’m good with God.  After all, Paul says circumcision doesn’t really matter.  What matters is love.”

If it were only this simple.  The problem is Paul’s context.  Without properly understanding the context, we think Paul is preaching a message of  “heart circumcision.”  That would mean Paul’s statements that the Law is good and holy, that he kept the Law all his life and encouraged others to do so, that “circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is keeping the commandments of God” are not only hypocritical, they show that Paul was schizophrenic.  How can circumcision be “nothing” when it is a commandment of God?  How can Paul say that the Law, which contains the commandment of circumcision, is good and holy and at the same time say that circumcision doesn’t matter?  Why does Paul not compel Timothy to be circumcised but participates in the ritual anyway?  These conflicts are resolved when we consider who is opposing Paul.

In the first century, pagans came to Jews asking to join their communities with the full rights and privileges of Jewish members.  This was the path of the proselyte.  There was a prescribed sequence for a pagan to become a Jew which included Torah study, baptism and circumcision.  Not surprisingly, Romans considered circumcision a barbaric practice; first because it originated (in their thinking) in Egypt (the enemy) and second because the Hellenistic world considered the body sacred, therefore, mutilating the body, especially the penis, was unthinkable.  One had to be very serious, and very non-Roman, to want to go through this in order to be a Jew.

But many men did take this path.  Therefore, when Paul argues against the necessity of circumcision, he is speaking to an audience that already believed you had to be Jewish in order to be a full member of the community that worshipped YHWH.  What Paul argues is that circumcision is not a requirement for membership in the household of God.  All that is required is answering God’s call on your life.  You are accepted into full membership because of the faithfulness of Yeshua who opened the door for anyone, regardless of ancestry, to enter God’s household.  Therefore, in opposition to those who represented the proselyte path, Paul argues that circumcision is unnecessary.  In fact, if you have entered on the basis of Yeshua’s obedience, and then you attempt to use circumcision as the basis for your entry, you nullify what Yeshua already did for you.  You can’t have it both ways, argues Paul.  Either you come into fellowship with YHWH on the basis of Yeshua’s faithfulness or you attempt to come into fellowship through the path of the proselyte.  And if you choose the path of the proselyte, you inherit the demands of the whole Law as a means of entry.  Even Jews know that this is foolishness.  That’s why there are sacrifices.  No one comes on the basis of the Law alone.

What is circumcision then?  Well, it’s obedience to the commandments of God after you have been ushered into the household of the faithful.  It means nothing for entry, but it is still part of the expected behavior of citizens of the Kingdom.  But only citizens.  You have to be a citizen first before the rules of citizenship apply.  That’s why Paul tells those who want to make circumcision an entry requirement that they are wrong.  They have missed the entire point about grace.  But Paul still participates in Timothy’s circumcision because it is not a matter of getting in.  It is a matter of doing what God asks after you have arrived.

By the way, it is no different for keeping Shabbat or eating kosher or not charging interest to a brother in need or taking care of widows and orphans.  All of these are expectations of citizens of the Kingdom.  None are requirements for entry into the Kingdom.  Go read Peter’s exclamation at the house of Cornelius.  Once he realizes that citizens are the ones called, not the ones born in the line, he understands that answering God’s call is the only necessary and sufficient condition for fellowship.  All the rest is subsequent obedience.

“The categories of the Bible are not principles to be comprehended but events to be continued.  The life of him who joins the covenant of Abraham continues the life of Abraham.  Abraham endures for ever.  We are Abraham, Isaac, Jacob.”[1]

Now go back and read Paul’s opening prepositional phrase.  “In Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything.”  Outside of Christ, cutting the foreskin meant acceptance or no acceptance.  But in Christ, as entry into the Kingdom, cutting means nothing.  Why?  Because there is only one door and it does not open with a brit milah.  It opens with teshuvah.

Topical Index: circumcision, Galatians 5:6, brit milah, 1 Corinthians 7:19

 


[1] Abraham Heschel, Man’s Quest for God, p. 88.

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Brent Phillips

I am so with you on law & grace, what is required to enter the kingdom and what is expected behavior as a citizen. But I am a bit confused on the 613 commandments. Some of them seem very contrary to the teaching of Jesus. How do we discern which OT commandments are applicable and which ones aren’t?

Gabe

As soon as I was convinced that the Torah was not “done away with” – my mind was attracted to the strangest, most culturally-removed, and most violent seeming aspects of the Torah. These “strange commands” seemed to obscure the commands/blessings that were fully possible for me to follow. I think some of God’s commands are meant to be struggled with. Others are now sort of abstractions since we are removed from the time of Joshua, the Holy Land, and God’s temple.

“What?! You want to start stoning Sabbath breakers and disrespectful children?!” Is this the kind of thing you are talking about? It’s easier to talk frankly and with specifics, I think.

Gabe

Very true, although I think the “limitation” argument applies better to the “eye for an eye” stuff. Especially considering the story of Dinah in Genesis 34, this was a law enacted in the context of Israel’s history of overbearing bloodshed.

For the Sabbath breaker – it was he who decided that he wanted blessing without obedience – he wanted the benefits of relationship (with God) without commitment. Sounds like a ‘relationship’ with a harlot. What possible command is easier than “stop working”? It’s the ultimate test. For a group of people forced to work constantly – what better test of obedience? Only a heart consumed with having it’s own way would find “stop working” an oppressive command!! Only the height of presumption goes out in the midst of Israel in essence saying, “You suckers follow God’s ways, I WILL NOT! AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!?”

We focus on the abstract act of “picking up sticks” — but do we trust that God correctly saw the presumptuous, rotten, putrid, and pretentious heart of this man? Do we see God destroying the leaven before it affects the whole loaf?

The problem is not the story. The problem is our twisted perspective that gives the man the benefit of the doubt over God.

David Hereford

Abba is removing the false teaching about His written Word as I lay down my own need to “have it all figured out”. His presence here in my heart is now the foundation for all of life. As He is is transforming me into the image of Yeshua Messiah, the need to know “doctrine” is being replaced with His Spirit’s abiding. He has me beginning in Genesis again with an open heart and open mind to everything He says. He even has me beginning a four year course in Biblical Hebrew.
Praise be to The Lord of Host who dwells among us!

CAROL MATTICE

I understand what you are saying David .
The divine order according to the book of Acts is teaching first with prayer at the end.
I believe this order as when we are taught the Doctrine of CHRIST to be adorned; the other 3 will follow.
ACTS 2:42
I am thankful that doctrine is needed to establish us but it is grace by the HOLY SPIRIT within that will teach us exactly what HE means by CHRIST’S doctrine to be adorned.
Praise be unto the LORD.

carl roberts

The Kindest Cut of All

~ In the beginning.. God ~ ( bereshith bara Elohim)

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Word_of_the_Week/Archived/Brit/brit.html

~ While they were eating, Yeshua took a piece of matzah, made the b’rakhah, broke it, gave it to the talmidim and said, “Take! Eat! This is my body!” Also He took a cup of wine, made the b’rakhah, and gave it to them, saying, “All of you, drink from it! For this is My blood, which ratifies the New Covenant, My blood shed on behalf of many, so that they may have their sins forgiven… ~

CAROL MATTICE

Carl, as Christians or as Followers of THE LORD.. we know that the law does not allow entry into Christ but by way of the BLOOD.
Now that we are IN CHRIST ; is the Mosaic Law ( ten commandments; precepts; testimonies ) not kept ?
I know that they have not saved me; but when we keep them are we not established and kept clean in our daily lives ?
Many say that we are not under the 10 commandments but I say what LAW of the SPIRIT is in our hearts if it is NOT the Mosaic Commandments of GOD …..

Michael

He took a cup of wine, made the b’rakhah, and gave it to them, saying, “All of you, drink from it! For this is My blood, which ratifies the New Covenant, My blood shed on behalf of many, so that they may have their sins forgiven… ~

Hi Carl,

I like the link 4christians; it’s very interesting, but I’m not sure if Yeshua means to be taken literally

My disagreement would be with Paul’s reference to Yeshua as the “cornerstone” in Ephesians 2:21

I’m thinking that the “foundation” must be a set of requirements and Yeshua is not required

To have a relationship with Yahweh

carl roberts

>> I’m thinking that the “foundation” must be a set of requirements and Yeshua is not required

To have a relationship with Yahweh <<

Yes, Michael is is all about "relationship wit h Yahweh" and as He (Yeshua) has said, "I AM the Way- the Truth (Truth is a Person) and the Life,"- no man (Jew or Gentile) comes to the Father, but by Me.

Does Yeshua "nullify" the Ten Commandments? Were these given by Moses or by God Himself through Moses? Whenever God speaks, – it is forever. ~ the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good…~

~ The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God endures forever ~
(Isaiah 40.8)

No, the cross of the crucified One does not "nullify" the Torah nor the instructions of YHWH, but instead establishes the fact (just the facts m'am)- ~ "all" have sinned (transgressed the Torah- none of us have kept the Torah "perfectly" (with the exception of ONE!).

There is (we must establish) what is the "decided difference" (is there a difference?) between the Old Covenant and the New (er).

Yom Kippur- (the Day of Atonement). The Priesthood of Melchizedek. The Voice from Heaven testifying- "this is My Beloved Son, – hear (shema) Him.

Christ has made the claim to be (yes, in real flesh and real blood ) the Maschiach, the Anointed.
Is He a blasphemer?- receiving the worship of men and of angels? Or is He who He said He was? In His own words: "follow Me.."

The Difference: In the Old Covenant , (we might even go so far as to say "B.C." or before Christ, God had a Temple for His people. But in the New (and much improved!) Covenant, God has a people for His temple! And what agreement hath a temple of God with idols? for we are a temple of the living God; even as God said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. (2 Corinthians 6.16)
In the Old(er) Covenant, there were shadows of the Messiah, but in the New(er) Covenant there is Sonshine!- and substance. He is the One. (Or is He the One and shall we look for another?) Should we, shall we doubt Him?
Did God become a Man? Was He virgin-born? Is He our sinless Substitute and Savior? Why did John the Immerser proclaim: "BEHOLD THE LAMB?" Was the Lamb slain during the feast of the Passover? Why?

~ He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him ~ (2 Corinthians 5.21)

Michael

He (Yeshua) has said, “I AM the Way- the Truth (Truth is a Person) and the Life,”- no man (Jew or Gentile) comes to the Father, but by Me.

I am the *********** shore patrol
U.S. Navy petty officers Billy “Bad***” Buddusky (Jack Nicholson)

Hi Carl,

As you know, Yeshua is a Godlike man, but Truth is an abstraction of true events

The comment by Jack Nicholson in the movie The Last Detail works the same way

When Jack says he “is” the Shore Patrol, he means he represents the Shore Patrol

And you could say that Jack “tips his hat” to Yeshua and Job on how to do the job

Yeshua shows us how to get the job of finding our way to God done IMO

Rich Pease

On this Thanksgiving Day (here in America),
I’m thankful for all of you on this site who continue
to share your heart’s findings along this glorious path
we’ve been called to.