Judge and Jailer?

for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.  We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ, and we are ready to punish all disobedience, whenever your obedience is complete. 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 NASB

Punish – Most of us are familiar with the preceding phrase “taking every thought captive.” It is often used as an exhortation to righteousness. But how many of us connect this idea with the remaining part of the verse informing us that those who are called are ready to punish all disobedience? Perhaps we find the idea disturbing, especially in a religious world that teaches a God of pure love. But here it is. Paul and his followers are ready to exercise retributive justice on those who do not obey. Does that feel right to you? Does it make you squirm just a bit? Is it the kind of thing you would do?

Maybe we need to investigate the Greek verb ekdikeo a bit more. First we should notice that the verb is a modification of the root dike, a critical term about what is right and just. Dike is the Greek expression of the Hebrew mishpat, a crucial term for justice and righteousness. This Greek word captures the Hebrew idea that God provides torah (instructions) that is binding on the community and not subject to change or challenge. Ekdikeo is the action of avenging dishonor to God by upholding His law and punishing those who flagrantly abuse it. It is the action of keeping the sacred free of contamination. This requires a change in our understanding of punishment. We think of punishment as some kind of retributive act that brings penalty, either physical or emotional reprisal or both. But ekdikeo has a broader umbrella. Ekdikeo is about upholding the honor of God and the sanctity of His appointed law by refusing to allow any form of contamination to find its way into the sacred realm. Sometimes this will require reprisal, but often it means boundary-setting. “Here is the line, do not cross it.” And if the line is crossed, punishment becomes a vehicle of repentance and restoration.

Notice that Paul says we are ready to carry out these actions. We are willing to stand up for God’s honor, for His Torah, and we are willing to accept the consequences for taking this stand. Paul does not say that we necessarily exercise punishment. Of course, it follows that we will engage in defense of YHVH when needed but our willingness does not erase the action of the Spirit nor does it cast aside the potential deterrent of knowing that punishment will follow. Measure for measure does not demand retribution. It only makes it possible in the hope that the possibility will act as a barrier to anyone considering disobedience. What is clear is this: unless there is a real threat of reprisal, infection will not be inhibited. Paul is not suggesting we act as judge, jury and jailer. He is encouraging us to take a firm stand, recognizable by all who would oppose the will of God in Torah, and to be ready to exercise mishpat if needed. Taking thoughts captive has real communal consequences.

Topical Index: punish, ekdikeo, mishpat, just, right, 2 Corinthians 10:4-6

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David L. Craig

This is good but misses a key point: punishments are not legitimately assessed and carried out by vigilantes. This verse must be paired with Romans 13 to remember those God authorizes to punish do not bear the sword for nothing AND they are accountable to Him for their use (and non-use) of the authority. All believers are empowered to compel themselves to take a timeout when they deem that necessary. Parent certainly punish their children when appropriate if they love them. And so forth.

Now, doesn’t that make that medicine easier to swallow?

Rusty

I just purchased a Kindle version of Nanos’ book. I’ll take a wild guess that it isn’t a rehash of Luther’s commentary on Romans……

David L. Craig

Are you implying my reference is out of context?

Michael C

Doesn’t Nanos outline the reference as being under the authority of the synagogue, not Rome. The context, I think from Nanos’s view, is the gentiles coming to Messiah were being funneled in to the synagogue for both community and teaching of Torah. The need was for them to understand the necessity of those teachings from Torah led by the rabbis, the teachers in the synagogues as the instructions for their new life and abiding in the new man, the new community of Jews and gentiles via Messiah Yeshua. They were to do all that was necessitated for Torah living. It was vital and obligated in order for life to exist in this growing Yeshua based body, the Way. For life to blossom and be, the new members MUST move toward the manner of life discussed, taught and illustrated from Torah. Yeshua demonstrated it, taught his messengers and followers, most all Jews. When Paul began brining in the nations via this good news, the alarm came in the need of these newbies to be in the proper order and life of Torah, thus being duly obedient to those that dispense that Torah each Shabbat IN the synagogues. THAT was were their authority emanated from, not Roman government.

The in traditional christian view is that the authority was the government of Rome, not the Paul-intended leaders directing and leading in the synagogues, i.e. the rabbi, in the place where the new Messiah gentile followers were pointed in order to obtain the Way, the Truth and the Life that is delineated in Torah as personified in Yeshua and perpetuated by the apostolic band of peoples.

At least that’s my take so far.

laurita hayes

This verse, to me, is about taking back responsibility. Iniquity is about deferring responsibility. I think we have all stood with Adam in that Garden, pointing our finger and saying “the devil made me do it”. Well, for years, I WAS forced into compliance – or at least complicity – with evil. How was I forced? Because, for the life of me, I could see no frontal way to make the choices of love. No line drive down the middle; not even a cow path trod by others, much less someone who took me by the hand and said “walk this way”. All I saw was a jungle. All my choices that I could see pointed down. All involved at least some element of error; some compromise with evil; some agreement with sin. The harder I tried to stand up straight, the harder the wind seemed to blow. I was fractured from community in a very real way, and I believe it was then that I began to see that righteousness is a communal endeavor. Righteousness, in fact, is only possible if there is more than one. Quorums are preferable: minions would be really nice! I longed for at least one person (or at least G-d) to come along and say “she is right: leave her alone!” Alone, I felt I had no choice: no power: and it was in those places I found myself having to decide what type of deals I was willing to cut at those crossroads at midnight. When your loved ones are the hostages (not to mention yourself), and you look around for the police but see no one, that is when you answer the call and ask “what do you want?”. And show up to pay.

Why did I have no one? Because I was successfully separated from my family, my community, and my G-d in one fell swoop. I didn’t even feel I could trust myself, because I found myself afraid and helpless, and therefore untrustworthy. I truly felt I had no one! Yes, I continued to pray, and go to church (I was taken to church), but I did not feel connected any more. Did I try to reach out? Yes, I did. In every way an uncomprehending child could, I tried, but it was so hard, because I was constantly ashamed and so, so very afraid. There was no one in my world who turned around and said “what is wrong?”; but, sadly, there were plenty who pointed the finger. And shunned me. I was a sitting prey, and the predators showed up like clockwork. I smelled like easy pickin’s, because I had no one who stood for me.

What made me vulnerable? Fracture. I was convinced that I was not a Part Of, and so therefore I thought I had no choice but to make choices that assumed that I was not a part of. Forsaken was how I perceived myself, so forsaken was how I acted. I was quite sick. When I hit my bottom, and became willing to relinquish all that pride covering all that fear, and community started to appear RIGHT AT THAT POINT, AND TO WORK, my life immediately began to change. I no longer smelled so much like prey, and my choices for righteousness began to work, too! It was an absolutely amazing change for me!

When I take thoughts captive, I still have to do something with them. When I see the fracturing bitterness, accusation, shame, comparison and unloving that provides the motivation for even more sin, along with the fear that provides the driving bottom for all that fracture, and the pride that provides a cover for the same, like a sandwich made in Hell’s Kitchen; I still have to do something. In fact, that is precisely the point where doing something returns. I was helpless, frozen, bound, compelled: a hostage to sin – my own and others’ – and no way out could I see. When I decided to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for myself FIRST, the key showed up in my hand.

I think evil IS the act of deferring responsibility. It was Pastor Martin Niemoller during WWII who pointed out that he did not speak for others, and so there was no one left to speak for him. “All that is required for evil to flourish is for good men to stand by and do nothing.” This is about the communal aspect of righteousness, is it not? Stinkin’ thinkin’ is all about ducking responsibility. Accusing G-d, others, and even myself results in judgment and punishment from hell. It can look and sound and feel like righteousness, but the fruit thereof is evil. I am convinced that accusation is the basis for all fracture because accusation is HOW I get set apart from G-d, myself, and others. It provides the grounds for the condemnation of bitterness, unloving, rebellion of all sorts, jealousy, shame, etc. that show up to dispense with the judgment that accusation provided. Unforgiveness, for example, is a FRUIT of some sort of accusation. I am going to find an accusing thought of some sort when I go examining the unforgiveness in my life. Unforgiveness is HOW I avoid the responsibility of relationship. Accusation merely provides the way. Unforgiveness is a private lynching: a judgment and punishment that I do SO AS TO avoid the responsibilities of relationship. Sin of all sorts is how I pass the buck. Righteousness is how I take it back.

Righteousness is taking responsibility. When I step back and look at both sin and righteousness, I see an aspect of judgment and punishment involved in both. Sin judges and condemns G-d, myself and others SO AS TO avoid taking responsibility of some sort for relationship. Righteousness is the taking of responsibility for relationship, which, in this evil world, is going to inevitably involve taking a stand to protect that relationship. That stand IS the indictment against the world that is the source of that fracture. War is an act of judgment and punishment, also, but we are called to a war to maintain or to restore relationships, are we not?

“The greatest want of the world is the want of men- men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.” Ellen White EDUCATION p. 57

carl roberts

Just As I AM

Yes, “just as I am, without one plea, —except Thy blood was shed for me.”

Judge, Jury and Executioner, — I know who I am. I (too) am a man. I am a human, one among many. I am but one sinner, among many sinners, for ALL have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. Hear my confession: (the very prayer of an errant son) — “forgive ME, Father, -for I (too) have sinned..” I stand a sinner in need of a Savior — no, – I kneel a sinner, a leper, a dead man, — a man, a human – a “marked man” (for sin will surely leave it’s wounds and scars), but.. – what is this I see?

It is my Father, running to meet me! How can this be? How can this be so? After I wished Him dead and demanded to be paid my inheritance?
I know I am filthy, having dined with the pigs. I am broke and broken and have nowhere to go, except to return to the One who is my Father. Perhaps he will hire me as one of His servants.

Now, hear my confession: ~ This son said to Him, “Father, I have sinned against Heaven and against You. I am no longer worthy to be called Your son.” Listen, — “I have sinned, I have perverted what is right, but I did not get what I deserved.” (Job 33.27)

No, (amazingly) I did not receive what I deserved — judgment, but what I did receive, neither did I deserve — (grace) the favor of my Father!

But while I was still a long way off, (a sinner, so far from my Father who is holy), my Father saw me and felt compassion for me, and ran and embraced me and kissed me! I knew I deserved His judgment and HIs wrath, but My Father said to His slaves, — ‘Quickly bring out the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet;…

I said to my Father: “Against You, You only, have I sinned and done what is evil in Your sight; so You are right in Your verdict and justified when You judge!”

And what was His response to my confession? “This son of mine was dead and has come to life again; he was lost and has been found.”

And they began to celebrate..

Now the tax collectors and sinners were all drawing near to hear Him. And the Pharisees and the scribes grumbled, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.”
So He told them this parable: “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? And when He has found it, he lays it on His shoulders, rejoicing. And when He comes home, He calls together His friends and His neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with Me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’

Just so, — I tell you, there will be more joy in Heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
“Or what woman, having ten silver coins, if she loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and seek diligently until she finds it? And when she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin that I had lost.’

How To Make Heaven Happy

— Just so, I tell you, there is joy before the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

For there is therefore now, — “no condemnation” to those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8.1)

Sinners Jesus will receive;
Sound this word of grace to all
Who the heavenly pathway leave,
All who linger, all who fall.
Sing it o’er and over again;
Christ receiveth sinful men;

Make the message clear and plain:

Christ receiveth sinful men.
Come, and He will give you rest;
Trust Him, for His Word is plain;

He will take the sinfulest;

Christ receiveth sinful men.
Now my heart condemns me not,
Pure before the Law I stand;

He who cleansed me from all spot,

Satisfied its last demand.
Christ receiveth sinful men,
Even me with all my sin;

Purged from every spot and stain,

Heaven with Him I enter in.

Sing it o’er and over again;
Christ receiveth sinful men;

Make the message clear and plain:

Christ receiveth sinful men.

~ This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief ~

~ for this cause came I into the world..~

~ For the Son of Man came to seek and save what was lost ~

Remember the angelic announcement?

~ a Savior, who is Christ the LORD. ~