Who’s the Audience?

(Formerly in Israel, when a man went to inquire of God, he used to say, “Come, and let us go to the seer”; for he who is called a prophet now was formerly called a seer.) 1 Samuel 9:9 NASB

Prophet/Seer – Once in awhile, if you are paying attention, you run across a sentence like this that clearly indicates that the audience of the story is not the characters in the story. When the story took place, the particular person in question was called a rōʾeh, but now, when the story is being told, this particular person is referred to as a nābîʾ. We hardly notice this. We read right over it, simply assuming that the author is providing us with some interesting historical background. But if we do not stop and consider what is being said, we will naively assume that the verse was written so that we would understand the change. That would be a mistake.

Unfortunately, it is a far too common mistake. Over and over we encounter people whose interpretation of the text is really a product of their own culture and historical period. Rarely do we find people who actually fret over what the words meant to the original audience. And in this case, as in so many others, the original audience is not the people who were present during the time of Samuel. If they were, there would be no necessity of explaining the change in title. In other words, we should date this text after the word rōʾeh evolved into the world nābî’.

First we need a little background. What’s the difference between rōʾeh and nābî’?

A name for the nābîʾ (prophet) is rōʾeh (seer) suggesting that the act of seeing God’s message (by dreams or visions) was so important that the spokesman (nābîʾ) might be called one who sees (divine things), that is, a “seer” (I Sam 9:9, 11, 18, 19 and at least seven other times in the ot). This feature placed certain limits on prophetic communication about the future and prophetic interpretation as God was careful to point out (Num 12:4–8) and as the prophets regretfully acknowledge (Dan 8:27; 12:8). The vision often needed further interpretation.[1]

“Since, quite obviously, the same individual can be designated by the three terms, what if any, is the distinction between them? … The word nābîʾ … stressed the objective or active work of the messenger of the Lord in speaking forth God’s Word. The terms rōʾeh and ḥōzeh, translated seer on the other hand emphasized the subjective element, namely the receiving of divine revelation by seeing. In Isa 30:10 the rebellious Israelites say to the seers, ‘See not.’ The term prophet emphasized the prophet’s utterances, rōʾeh and bosʿh indicated his method of receiving divine communication” (Hobart E. Freeman, An Introduction to the OT Prophets, Moody, 1968, pp. 40–41).[2]

With this in mind, it appears that the two are almost synonyms, the real difference being the method rather than the person. But this is even more curious. If the terms are interchangeable, then why does the writer bother to tell us that there has been an evolution in classification? The answer must be that his intended audience used to classify these actions as actions of a “seer” but now they call them actions of a “prophet.” And this tells us something else about the way we read the Bible.

The audience is not always the same. Some texts are written to one group of people, some to another. So it’s not simply a matter of culture and historical period. It is also a matter of the sub-group of the culture. What particular group of people does this text address?

You’re probably wondering why we would even bother with things like this. Isn’t the message pretty much the same no matter who it was originally given to? What does it really matter? Ah, but then we come to the account of the triumphal entry of Yeshua into Jerusalem. The people are joyfully shouting and praising God. However, it seems as if just a few days later they have completely reversed themselves, now crying out for his execution. Here is an example of not noticing the sub-group of the audience. Those who opposed Yeshua were not singing with joy one day and hurling accusations the next. No, the ones who were singing were not the same group as the ones who wanted him dead. This was not a mass reversal of affection. It was two different audiences in the same city. And this helps us resist the anti-Semitic charge that the “Jews” rejected the Messiah. The “Jews” make up many different sub-groups. Some believed.   Some didn’t. When we want to investigate the stories, we need to know who’s doing what to whom, down to the details.

And when it comes to Paul’s letters, oh, how important it is to know which group he is addressing. Maybe we wouldn’t have such arguments if we spent more time figuring out this problem before we started telling each other what the text really means.

Topical Index: seer, prophet, nābî, rōʾeh, exegesis, 1 Samuel 9:9

[1] Culver, R. D. (1999). 2095 רָאָה. R. L. Harris, G. L. Archer Jr., & B. K. Waltke (Eds.), Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (electronic ed., p. 823). Chicago: Moody Press.

[2] Ibid.

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Laurita Hayes

But Skip, it’s so much more fun to pick and choose!

I think people have always had “itching ears” and when did we ever really want to hear what the prophets had to say? The wise man said that there is nothing new under the sun. I assume he also meant that humans have always shared the same problems, too.

In Yeshua’s day we can see that it was popular to avoid the verses about the Suffering Servant and focus on the ones more specific to His second coming instead, and the passage in Daniel that pinpointed the exact time of His birth (“the TIME is at hand”) enjoyed an actual rabbinic curse on the reading of it.

I think the wise man was right. We damn those awful Jews but then we go do the very same stuff. Thank you, Skip, for holding our noses to the grindstone.

Mark parry

Hi Laurita, a few weeks back you where so kind as to offer your e-mail. Could you share it agin to save me the culling through the archives?

Laurita Hayes

It’s lauritahayes at g mail dot com

Brett Weiner B.B.( brother Brett)

Hello someone told me baseball someone who plays two roles it’s called the switch hitter and it’s possible that is applied here. Not to be confused with as you said simultaneously meaning the same thing. But instead same person doing something different. Not all prophets were seeds but all seeers were prophets.

Rich Pease

Try getting the same message across to our various sub groups
in today’s political and cultural divide. Good luck.

Brett Weiner B.B.( brother Brett)

Right on . Rich let alone the same message what about all groups at the same time. App with Google Now?

Bob

” And this helps us resist the anti-Semitic charge that the “Jews” rejected the Messiah.” Doesn’t this indicate that your interpretation MAY be the “product of their own culture and historical period. ”

I don’t need to resist the charge that the Jews rejected Christ, I am capable of understanding that everyone rejected Christ. He had to die desolate. Even his disciples ran away.

The reversal of attitude is easily explained by his encounters in the temple. The leaders were attempting to divide the people among themselves to split their apparent unity in Christ, and Jesus turns the argument to split the leaders from the people.

THEN he offends everyone. If the leaders are blind, so are the followers. Now that he has offended the crowd, his last few statements are heard as those of a megalomaniac.

Mt 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren.
Mt 23:9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Mt 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, [even] Christ. Mt 23:11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. Mt 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

They thought the Messiah would set them free, and here he is setting himself up as their master. They have had enough of god-men (the Caesars).

robert lafoy

Unfortunately, master isn’t a very good translation of what is being said in these passages. I don’t see any thing here that would offend the people in general as, these were issues they were already aware of and… what they were expecting the Messiah to be and accomplish. While I agree that he had to be abandoned, I find it interesting that he had a conversation while on the cross with at least one of his disciples and a coupla others. One of the issues that have to be considered is the power over the lives these “rulers” held. Getting kicked out of a synagogue isn’t like getting kicked out of a church, you just go to another one. You were ostracized from the entire community, business, social and religious. Just something to consider.

Kimberly

Maybe all prophets see, but not all seers prophecy.

Kimberly

I’m saying they share the same method of receiving a message from God (via a dream or vision), but the person called to function as prophet speaks the message he has received. Jeremiah received a message from God via visions of an almond tree branch and a boiling pot, and he was to proclaim that message to the people. Joseph received a message from God via dreams of bowing sheaves and celestials, and he and his family became that message. So both Jeremiah and Joseph are rōʾeh, but Jeremiah is also nābî’ when God tells him to go speak the message.