Paul’s Apologetics (1)

that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. Philippians 3:10-11 NASB

Know – Greek is a technical language. Where Hebrew might use a single word as an umbrella for many different (but related) meanings, Greek has the tendency to delineate each of those meanings with a separate word. So Hebrew has one umbrella term for knowing (yāda̱) where Greek has a litany of words for each of the subtle differences concerning knowledge. Why is this important? Because Paul’s choice of the specific Greek word in this verse helps us correct a problem in translation. What’s the problem? Well, in this case, English acts more like Hebrew than Greek. The English term “know” can have a lot of different meanings and unless we know (ha!) what those differences are, we will tend to read the text as we wish rather than as the author intended.

The TDNT points out this issue:

The ordinary use [of ginṓskō] is for intelligent comprehension (“to perceive,” “to understand,” “to know”), at first with a stress on the act. As distinct from aisthánesthai, ginṓskō emphasizes understanding rather than sensory perception, and as distinct from dokeín it is a perception of things as they are, not an opinion about them. Related to epistḗmē, gnōsis needs an objective genitive and suggests the act of knowing rather than knowledge as such. This act embraces every organ and mode of knowledge, e.g., by seeing, hearing, investigation, or experience, and of people as well as things. Supremely, however, knowledge implies verification by the eye; hence the dominant concept is that of knowledge by objective observation[1]

When you read this verse, what do you think Paul means by using the verb ginṓskō? If you didn’t know that ginṓskō was about sensory perception, you might think that Paul is writing about our inner spiritual feelings. You might think that Paul’s apologetic is based on the movement of the Spirit in his soul. But this isn’t want Paul means. In this verse, he is not interested in how we feel. He is focused on what can be supported by external observation, by evidence open to the public. We might think that this means Paul could have written a book like Evidence That Demands a Verdict. But Paul works in a rabbinic world, not a 20th century scientific world. Paul’s apologetics are not based on forensic arguments. They are based on the Torah. Paul’s view of external, observable reality is all about the connection between the Torah and the Messiah. This rabbinic background shapes the use of the Greek ginṓskō.

For the rabbis knowledge is knowledge of the law, and while the term may denote a thinking, gifted, or learned person, the law and tradition are the basis and theme of instruction. Obedience is regulative in this regard,[2]

Thanks to Luther, today we read this verse as if Paul is endorsing some psychological spiritual state. But he wouldn’t think like that. For Paul, the evidence of Yeshua as the Messiah comes from the Tanakh. If it can’t be found there, then it isn’t really important. This is why virtually all of Paul’s arguments in his letters rely on citations from the Tanakh. That is public evidence!

If you want to know the Messiah as Paul knows the Messiah, you will have to begin in Genesis, not John. How you feel about that doesn’t matter. So get to work.

Topical Index: know, yāda̱, ginṓskō, apologetics, Philippians 3:10-11

[1] Kittel, G., Friedrich, G., & Bromiley, G. W. (1985). Theological Dictionary of the New Testament (p. 119). Grand Rapids, MI: W.B. Eerdmans.

[2] Ibid., p. 120.

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bruce odem

I am glad for the time zone difference for it gave me the option to read yesterday’s word as well as today’s and as I put the two together I think i “see” the gate is the Torah is YHWH is His presence not yeshua. for did not yeshua say that he spoke and did ONLY what he saw the Father do and what he heard the Father say, Yeshua never sought to exalt, glorify himself but always and only pointed and reflected to the Father, for a simple minded fellow like myself this is pretty simple. I must needs to beware of that dialectic opinions especially my own . There was or still is a little song we used to sing with children and It always resonated with me ” o b e d ience obedience is the only way to show that you believe” Shalom To you ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Laura Strobel

Bruce, Yeshua IS the Living Torah. Of course, “them’s fightin’ words,” but, there’s no separation of the Father, the Torah, His presence, Yeshua. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is echad and Yeshua said “My Father and I are echad.” And, yes, obedience is actually “revealed faith,” without which we will not see the Father. This is what I see, and we’re all in process. Shalom.

Laurita Hayes

Skip, Ezekiel had a problem with his audience: they did not recognize the “prophet among them”. Ez. 33:33 says ” And when this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.” Their ears were tuned only to what they wanted to hear, and their hearts were hard to the pleading of their YHVH to turn.

Until Yeshua walked the earth, much of His foreshadowing in the Tanakh was mysterious, leading to a whole lot of speculation. It reminds me of the prophecies in Daniel and Revelation; because a lot of it is still future, so we speculate about it, too, as I am sure the original audiences must have. Daniel was told, in fact, that his book would be “closed” – and it was! The original audiences did not understand, but, then, it was not written for them, but for us “upon whom the ends of the earth are come”. It is up to us who are seeing those prophecies come to pass to go back and read again with new eyes. The New Testament explodes with fresh new insight made by the followers of Yeshua who went back and read the Tanakh again with new eyes; eyes that had seen the Prophet Who was prophesied.

Hindsight is 20/20 for all of us. We don’t recognize the prophecies until they come to pass. Well, that is what prophecies are designed for.

The evidence of Yeshua as Messiah is written everywhere; not just in the Tanakh. All of creation testifies of its Creator, and all the earth groans for and desires its Saviour. The Holy Spirit speaks to all who are not resisting Him, and we were created to resonate with our Creator, too. We know when we are in His Presence. He is hard to miss! EXCEPT for those who think they already ‘know’ Him! But we are told that none of us will “know Him as He is” until we see Him face to face. Until then, it would behoove us to search for Him day and night “as He really is” – and not just how we imagine or speculate or want Him to be – and sell everything we have to get there, too. Heaven already has sold everything to reach us. We need to be found willing to do the same, and that includes examining, as Skip exhorts us all over and over, our own precious sacred cow paradigms. I have found it is safest for me to get up every morning and trade in the hardened, fearful and naive eyes of yesterday and ask for new ones for today, While I am at it, fresh ears to hear, too!

Judi Baldwin

Thanks Laurita.

Michael C

How can we know anything without torah?

Brett Weiner B.B.( brother Brett)

It sounds like the basics. If we don’t have a basic understanding. We will drift from the truth. New Covenant understanding without the old Covenant Foundation. Is like standing on one leg.

Michael Stanley

Michael C. Good seeing you again. I miss your erudite and studious comments here. And not only that, but having another Michael making frequent comments gave me some cover, as people would sometimes get us confused and I would reap the benefit of that doubt. I am certain that many times people thought it was me who wrote a wise, reasoned response, when in fact it was you! Hope you are well my friend. Still on the road?

Michael C

Thx. I’ve been busy, but keeping up with Skip’s posts. This is surely water in the dessert for me – keeping up with what he shares. I’m still on the road. Headed out now from the holiday break. I’ll try to contribute more. I appreciate someone missing me. That’s always good!

Judi Baldwin

Yes…welcome back Michael C.
I too have missed your comments.
We need BOTH Michaels in tandem. 🙂

Jerry and Lisa

Skip, are you saying you believe that Paul is using the word “know” in the sense that we can only know Messiah through what can be derived from or is evidenced in Torah and not at all by some psychological spiritual state, also?

Again, and I may be misreading you, but, it seems as though you often explain things in a way in which you seem to try to emphasize one thing while totally discounting another thing, in this case “Torah-based evidence” to the exclusion of “experiential evidence” – a sort of all or nothing, black or white, one or the other, throw-the-baby-out-with-the-bathwater, kind of dialectic.

The following passage might suggest that Paul would most likely consider “experiential evidence” as at least part of how he came to “know” Messiah, and it also suggests that such experience can also provide “public evidence”, just as the Torah (written AND also oral) does. Here’s the account and basis for my point:

“As he was traveling, approaching Damascus, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. Falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, ‘Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?’ ‘Who are You, Lord?’ Saul said. ‘I am Yeshua—whom you are persecuting. But get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.’ The men traveling with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one. ‘” [Act 9:3-7]

As for me, I have come to know Messiah by both “Torah-based evidence” and “experiential evidence”, and I would say that all of this has resulted in “public evidence” as well – the evidence of my proclaimed testimony of Messiah and the Torah, and a changed life, also observable by others.

I, too, like you, take exception to those who declare the Messiahship of Yeshua based only on some psychological spiritual state while denying the Torah. So, I really appreciate what I think you are trying to emphasize here. However, what do you think about those who declare the Messiahship of Yeshua but have no additional testimony or observable evidence rooted in some psychological spiritual state? And…..what do you think about those who declare the preeminence of Torah and have neither the testimony that Yeshua is Messiah or evidence of the living YHWH based even on some psychological spiritual state?

Then there is also this account that suggests that to “know” Him involves both:

“Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Him, and He disappeared from them. They said to one another, ‘Didn’t our heart burn within us while He was speaking with us on the road, while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?’” [Luk 24:30-32]

Judi Baldwin

AND…as Laurita said above…”The evidence of Yeshua as Messiah is written everywhere; not just in the Tanakh. All of creation testifies of its Creator, and all the earth groans for and desires its Saviour. The Holy Spirit speaks to all who are not resisting Him, and we were created to resonate with our Creator, too. We know when we are in His Presence. He is hard to miss!

Brett

I’ve used the phrase before ,and had a good response, hear goes…Torah in the roots …Torah in the fruits!!!

Jerry and Lisa

This is sort of a ridiculous argument I am making, and thankfully, it does not have to be this way, but I think if I had no scriptures for myself and I were only able to see and know a little of one to the exclusion of the other, Messiah or the Torah, by the clear sound testimony of another witness, in spirit and in truth, I think I would choose Messiah. Then I would say, “Messiah in the root…..Messiah in the fruits!

I guess I could put it this way. If I were to have the choice to live in a Jewish Torah-based culture before the coming of Messiah, even a Torah-based culture that believed in a coming messiah vs. a Jewish Messiah-based culture after the coming of Messiah, I’d choose the later. I would want to hear and know about Messiah more than I would want to hear about Torah. I would want to hear the testimony of someone who personally knew Messiah vs. someone who just knew Torah. I’d rather have the influence of someone who experienced Messiah in person vs. someone who could tell me about a messiah to come from what they could know about Him from Torah.