Before Alexander

Retain the standard of sound words which you have heard from me, in the faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 1:13 NASB

Sound words – Systematic theology, so essential for doctrine, was simply impossible before Alexander the Great. Why? Because systematic theology requires a special kind of theological dualism, that is, the separation of mind from matter, of body from spirit, of thought from act. Theological dualism results in the idea of heaven in opposition to earth, of another life after this one, and especially in a God who is removed from the creation. “This dualistic doctrine in its generalized content was to be one of the great forces in the Hellenistic syncretism of ideas.”[1] Changing traditional religion into a theological system reshaped rabbinic thought in the creation of the Talmud as well as the later development of Christian ideas. When Alexander spread Greek ideas across the Mediterranean, he introduced a separation in life that was simply impossible in ancient cultures. We are still living with this today.

But what about before Alexander?

You might ask, “Why are we concerned about faith before Alexander? Paul was after Alexander. Paul was influenced by rabbinic thought. If rabbinic thought is post-Alexander, shouldn’t we just look at what Paul says?”

Paul follows Yeshua and Yeshua was a reformer. He exhorted the audience to return to the ancient ways. In fact, many of his conflicts with other Jewish sects were about the interpretation of the Mosaic instructions according to ancient views rather than the contemporary (1st Century) views. While it’s probably true that Paul’s rabbinic flavor was influenced by Alexander’s Hellenism (like, for example, the ideas of reward and punishment in the next life), perhaps we also need to recognize the strong appeal to return to ancient ways. Not ancient theology. There’s a difference.

Faith before Alexander was not theological, that is, constructed from collections of statements about God, the world and men. Faith before Alexander was practical. It was about how to get along with your neighbor, how to dress, what to eat, how to worship, when to loan, when to give, who to marry—just the ordinary, customary things that every community does. In other words, faith was about how we act, not necessarily about how we think. Faith was a way of being in the world. If you were inclined to wax philosophical about that, Mazel tov, but what was necessary was community, responsibility and commitment. The rest is window dressing. This is why you can’t find the word “religion” in ancient ideas. There wasn’t any “religion” before Alexander. There was just “this is how we do things here.”

We are post-Alexandrians. We think faith is about what we believe. We have statements of faith, creeds, doctrines and dogmas. We like books about faith ideas. But perhaps that’s not what Paul meant and not what Yeshua intended. Perhaps we need to retreat to the time before Alexander conquered the world and ask, “How would I live if put all my theology books on the shelf?”

Topical Index: faith, words, creed, doctrine, religion, 2 Timothy 1:13

[1] Hans Jonas, The Gnostic Religion, p. 16

Correction:  April 10.  The second verb is asah, not asher.  Thanks, Leslie, for catching this.  The definition is correct in the article.  The page on the web site has been corrected.

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Patricia O

“ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; then you will find rest for your souls. (Jer.6:16)
Today’s Word gives clarity as well as being a helpful corroboration of Jeremiah’s words. Thank you.

Jerry and Lisa

“How would I live if I put all my theology books on the shelf?”

Or…..”How would I live if I put all the ‘SOUND WORDS’ into practice in my life?

That’s a great question, for sure! I don’t have a quick answer for that, but I know this…..considering the context of this verse…..I would need to “fan into flame the gift of God” just like Paul exhorted Timothy to do. I would need to put off shame of the testimony of Yeshua as Paul exhorted Timothy to do. And I would need to be willing to suffer for the message of “The Good News” in the same way Messiah and Paul suffered! That’s some of what would be different! There would be a fire within. There would be a boldness of proclamation along with a different manner of living. And there would be persecution and suffering!

Laurita Hayes

Right on!

Humans learn by experience. People who walk the truth rub against the world. People who merely talk the truth get along just fine. Lesson: talk gets the most ‘rewards’ in this day and time; walk invites opposition.

Truth is what I am convinced everybody already knows; there is no ‘secret knowledge’. (After all, we did eat of that Tree!) No, ‘knowing’ truth is not our problem; but then, truth is not a mental construct; it is a response to life itself. The Greeks just gave us an easy cop-out.

At the end of the age, when the Truth ascends the throne of His glory in front of all eyes, “all mouths will be stopped”. Why? I think it is because we already know the truth, so there will be nothing left to say in that day when there will be nowhere left to hide. We all know what love is, and isn’t. That knowledge has never been our problem. I think our problem has been that we want to AVOID the truth.

We are told God is “a consuming fire”. What is fire? The Greeks believed that it was a THING – a form – but we now understand that fire is a confluence of factors in correct relationship to each other: fuel, oxygen, heat. Likewise, love is not a noun either: love also is a verb. Fire is not a ‘thing’ in classical physics: fire is an event, just as love is. Therefore, we cannot ‘think’ fire and possess it. Further, fire is only present when all three of its factors are present, just as I believe God is.

God also, is not a Something we can hold in our minds. No; God is an experience, in which we have to be present, too. Perhaps we would have that experience more if we took off our shoes more and prepared our hearts to receive Him. He “stands at the door and knocks”. That requires us to open that door in real space and time, for the King of Glory wants to come in. Selah.

David Payant

A breath of fresh air Skip. Thanks for your faithfulness.

Deb

Like what we were saying in class this weekend, people were “walking with God” long before words were actually written about it.

Rich Pease

Actions speak louder than words.
Faith speaks louder than beliefs.
Faith has no worldly alliances. It is God’s will activated in us,
the result of our being deeply grounded in Him, as we willfully
disconnect from our old self-centric selves.
Abraham showed us how it’s done. God told him “Go!”
Abraham “went!’ The old self-centered Abraham gave way to “a new way.”
Never easy. “Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons.
For what son is not disciplined by his father?” Heb 12:7

Leslee Simler

Thank you, Rich… “lekh l’kha” “Go for yourself” for myself… I have contemplated this idea since it was first presented to me by a Hebrew scholar. You have reminded me.

Mark Parry

“The truth is in us and we in it only to then degree we actually walk in it” Art Katz. “I have no greater Joy than this…To see my children walking in the tuth ” Paul

Judi Baldwin

BTW…The internationally recognized date for Holocaust Remembrance Day corresponds to the 27th day of Nisan on the Hebrew calendar. It marks the anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. In Hebrew, Holocaust Remembrance Day is called Yom Hashoah.
On April 12, Israel’s air raid sirens will sound at 10 am local time. Even traffic will come to a halt and drivers get out to observe a two-minute silence.
The entire Jewish nation will take a moment to remember and contemplate the Holocaust. Since they are 8 hours ahead, that occurred at 3 AM Eastern time.
If you can, take time to remember the Holocaust, and especially to pray for the survivors, whose number is diminishing due to age, but many of whom are in living in Israel. Pray for those who have lost family members in the greatest calamity to have ever befallen the Jewish people, and pray that our world’s increasing anti-semitism will never again fall to such tragedy.

Michael Stanley

What if I were to “put all my theology books on the shelf?” My empty shelves would be full and my full mind empty. Maybe not a bad idea. Of course, my compulsive side would have to alphabetize all the books and sort them according to size and color which would keep my dyslexic brain busy for a season. Ugh. I think I may have to stay Hellenized as there is too much hell to pay to switch. Let me know when it is as easy to switch life plans as it is cable plans.

Dawn

You make me chuckle! Seriously, it is really difficult to switch life plans.
I hate being “anal” about stuff. It makes me crazy! One can chose to agonize over what others may think but that’s a dead end to.
I honestly think what people see is how you treat others and what you “do” more than how much you show off your intellect. Scripture also says that knowledge puffs up and it’s not difficult to find examples of that.
Truly interesting to consider this post. Really, how did people live before we had cannonized scripture and hundreds of Christian denominations? I have often wondered about that. Now I have a tiny bit of insight perhaps.
Thanks Skip 🙂