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to the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours: 1 Corinthians 1:2

NOTE:  It is now 2018.  I wrote this in 2010.  Since I wrote this, I have had a complete change of mind about the Trinity.  You should know that I am rewriting this TW on May 1, 2018 because of my change in thinking, but I am not going to delete this TW since it is part of the record of my journey.

Skip

Call Upon The Name – In the Greek text this phrase is epikaloumenois to onoma. But Paul isn’t thinking in Greek.  He is recalling a technical Hebraic phrase from Genesis.  “In those days men began to call on the name of the Lord” (Genesis 4:26).  The Hebrew expression (likro beshem YHWH) is an expression of ownership.  It is not simply a request for divine assistance.  In ancient cultures, no god would grant favor to someone who did not first offer worship.  So when men began to call on the name YHWH, they were in effect designating that YHWH was their God.  They were His servants.  Certainly this is what Paul has in mind when he uses the same phrase (in Greek) that appears at the beginning of the Torah.

But notice the change, a change which no orthodox Jew, especially a Pharisee, would ever suggest unless something startling had happened.  Paul does not say that this phrase of technical ownership, this phrase implying the object is God, is applied to YHWH.  He says that we call on the name of Yeshua.  Unless Paul has suddenly become an idolater, there is only one possible explanation for the use of this term here.  Yeshua must be God!

In fact, Paul qualifies the use of the Hebrew equivalent by explicitly included the Greek kurios (Lord) in the title he gives Yeshua.  Once again, this can only be the case if Paul considers Yeshua to be God.

Most of us don’t find any of this particularly shocking.  Our heritage has been saturated with the fact that Jesus is God.  We aren’t the least bit disturbed by the religious scandal that Paul’s statement would have caused.  But that’s because we don’t’ live in Corinth in the first century; we don’t attend a first century Jewish synagoge.  We aren’t being absorbed into a first century Jewish culture.  But everyone in Paul’s reading audience would have recognized just how explosive such a claim was.  And Paul was no intellectual slouch.  He had the highest pedigree possible.  He was a brilliant Torah scholar.  If he says that Yeshua is God, he must have some very good reasons.  Considering that many Jews believed the Messiah would be simply a man, this is indeed something amazing.

What difference does this make to us today?  We know that Yeshua is God.  Why should we get excited about this?  Perhaps we need to step back into the first century in pagan Corinth in order to capture the incredible truth of Paul’s statement.  We can call on His name, Yeshua HaMashiach, and know that we are declaring God’s ownership over us.  God is no longer mysterious, invisible, intangible, transcendental.  We have seen Him, touched Him, known Him.  He has called us friends.  He is God speaking to us.  And He rescues us.  Maybe we need to experience a bit of that excitement again.  It’s not just a name, is it?  This God, manifest in human form, is my God!

Topical Index:  call upon the name, Genesis 4:26, shem, onoma, 1 Corinthians 1:2

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Floyd Kelley

Skip,

Yah is amazing. I am teaching a Sunday School class on Israel. I started in Genesis and my lesson for today ended on the verse you wrote about this morning. I couldn’t figure out how to end my lesson, and so I prayed and asked Yah to send me knowledge, and then I opened your email to find it! It’s amazing how the Body works when we are in relationship with each other!

Thanks

Ian & Tara Marron

This TW got me thinking: there’s this guy in town, says he was a student of Gamaliel… but his teaching is contrary to the teaching of the sages in that he preaches contrary to the accepted definition of the Oneness of God; teaches a strange doctrine of ‘original sin’ that cannot be forgiven by repentance alone; teaches that salvation is not a ‘here and now’ requirement for the nation, but is rather a personal salvation linked to eternal life; teaches that foreigners can be grafted into the Jewish nation without the need for circumcision, etc., etc… AND THEY ALLOW HIM TO PREACH! Not only that, but he can stay in places for more than a day! Not only that, but they don’t warn every synagogue in the area that there’s a heretic going around! My word – they must have been far more tolerant of new interpretation in those days than we are today!!

carl roberts

– they must have been far more tolerant of new interpretation in those days than we are today!!–

according to the way Paul was treated- everywhere he went preaching the “good news” of Yeshua,-it seems either a revival or a riot occurred. Stoned, beaten, shipwrecked, cast into prison- miles away from the “preaching” of today.
The cross of (the) Christ was a total surprise to Hasatan. He just didn’t have a clue. (even today- he still doesn’t!). Something occurred in Saul’s life to totally “rearrange” his lifestyle. Saul’s own orderly “applecart” was upended. (Acts 24.16) This “something” included a name change to Paul and a “new” mission and passion:-to teach and preach (the) Christ an Him crucified.
“but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,” (1 Corinthians 1.23). There is no “gospel” without the preaching (proclaiming) of the cross. “In fact, according to the law of Moses, nearly everything was purified with blood. For without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness.” (Hebrews 9.22). The cross of the Christ was necessary for our salvation. It was central to the plan of YHWH from “the beginning.”. It was not an addendum or a “what will I do now?”. The cross was in the mind of G-d before He ever said, “Let there be..”
I am so grateful for Romans 10:13 (written by Rabbi Shaul- now known as the apostle Paul). His words today are just as fresh as they were then because they are not only his words, but these also are words written in a very special book, words inspired (G-d breathed) that are eternal and unchanging. Paul discovered something wonderful: -“For whoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Praise G-d, I am one of the “whosoevers.” I have called upon His name and I am (now) saved. Born from above. Regenerated. Made new. Sins forgiven.
Has Christ made a difference in my life? Oh my friend,- if you only knew. “Joy unspeakable and full of glory”- might be a good place to start, but this is “only the beginning!”- but wait!- there’s more! -(always more..). “In Christ”- there’s always more..
“Call upon His name?” His latter name was Yeshua. His name in Isaiah 53.6 was “Pele-yoez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom” (Notice these are dashes-not commas). An excellent study is the Name(s) of G-d. Over three hundred of them. All are declarations,revelations and affirmations of who “my G-d” is.
“Call upon His name?”- Pray. Pray and then pray and then pray. We learn to pray by praying. It is as simple as “ask” and you will receive. “seek” and you will find. “knock” and it shall be opened unto you. Pray just as a child would petition his father. Say “our Father.”. Say-… if G-d is my Father, -does that mean I am His son? “Dear friends, “now” we are children of G-d,” (1 John 3.2)

Ian & Tara Marron

“The cross of (the) Christ was a total surprise to Hasatan. He just didn’t have a clue. (even today- he still doesn’t!).”

It appears that most of the New Testament would be a surprise to him, too as it gives him a different function to that in the Tanakh! Why wouldn’t he know what the wrtings say? That’s the question that Sunday School kids ask, isn’t it – “Can’t he read?”

Carl, I don’t want to get involved in this discussion about the role of Yeshua, or those Scriptures that either may or may not speak of that role, until Michael has had the opportunity to respond… but I wonder, can you explain the quote from your post? How can a shrewd, wise, spiritual being, ‘living’ outside time, within the realm where the only reality is Truth, with access to the throne room of God, not know what events were actually taking place on the earth?

By the way, it was the Roman Church that changed “Sha’ul” to “Paul” – for the same reason that they changed Yeshua to Jesus, Ya’akov to James, Judah to Jude, etc.

Michael

“not speak of that role (Ha Satan ?), until Michael has had the opportunity to respond”

Hi Ian & Tara & Carl,

I don’t really understand the history of the period that well.

But it seems to me that context of the teaching of Jesus changes for Paul.

Jesus was talking to Jews who shared his values and Paul was talking to Pagans who did not.

Brad Young argues, in “Paul The Jewish Theologian,” that Paul and Jesus shared essentially the same theological worldview.

To over-simplify, it seems to me that the writers of the Old Testament were telling stories about Jewish history in relation to God.

Paul and Jesus were talking directly to people about there current situation and trying to lead them in a certain direction.

In a story about the past, Ha Satan is an interesting character that could be used to describe events that are the result of the Yezer Hara.

When talking directly to an audience, highly educated Rabbis might be more likely to say there are commandments against acting out our evil impulses.

And it offends God.

Maybe there was no reason to bring Ha Satan into the conversation unless they were referring to Scripture.

But I would guess Jesus and Paul had the same view of Ha Satan.

carl roberts

The story of Paul’s (*ahem*) “encounter is found in Acts chapter 26.

No, the wisdom we speak of is the mystery of God–his plan that was previously hidden, even though he made it for our ultimate glory before the world began. None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. (1 Corinthians 2.7,8) -Have we mentioned before, Elohim is a G-d of surprises?
As far as Hasatan being “shrewd and wise”- he is a brilliantly stupid created being.
I’m glad I got to go back and read the story of Paul’s “meeting”- I had not noticed the “voice from Heaven spoke Hebrew!- (Sha’ul). I have heard one Old Testament professor say Hebrew will be the language of Heaven! (might very well be!)
Sin is a form of stupidity. Skip has gone ever further with this, saying- sin is a form of insanity! Hasatan is full of sin and iniquity. Blinded by pride and ambition- He just did not recognize “who” this man (Yeshua) was. (G-d in human flesh).

Michael

“Most of us don’t find any of this particularly shocking.”
“We know that Yeshua is God.”

Hi Skip,

The first time I read the Bible from end to end, I concluded that Paul had created Christianity.

Maybe he did and maybe he didn’t, but I found Paul’s views rather shocking.

Mark was a much simpler man IMO and he definitely did not possess Paul’s intellectual power.

But Mark had a great “eye for detail” and he seems to have missed the point altogether that Yeshua was God.

If Yeshua were God, wouldn’t that be the main point of every Gospel?

Yeshua calls himself the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God” over 100 times as I recall.

Why doesn’t he ever say “I am God”?

It seems to me that we can believe Yeshua is God or not.

But I cannot say in good faith that I know Jesus is God.

Mary

You are my lamp, O Lord; the Lord turns my darkness into light. 2Samuel 22:29

The Lord is my light and my salvation– whom shall I fear? The Lord is the stronghold of my life– of whom shall I be afraid? Psalm 27:1

Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light for my path. Psalm119:105

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14

When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8″12

“I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58

God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘IAM has sent me to you.’ ” Exodus 3:14

For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,”made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ. 2Cor. 4:6

I and the Father are one.” John 10:30

This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

Put your trust in the light while you have it, so that you may become sons of light.” When he had finished speaking, Jesus left and hid himself from them. John 12:36
Even after Jesus had done all these miraculous signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. 37
This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: “Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?” 38
For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:39
“He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn-and I would heal them.” 40
Isaiah said this because he saw Jesus’ glory and spoke about him. 41

The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. Rev 21:23

Praise Yeshua, the Lamb of God, Emmanuel, The Light of the World, the Lamp, The Word made flesh, the Great I AM, Messiah, Deliverer, Name above all Names, the King of Kings, LORD of Lords, the One who called us out of darkness to walk in His marvelous light.

Helen Wolf

Mary, what you wrote is absolutely beautiful, God-breathed, TRUTH! Thank you for bringing it all together using only the Scriptures!! It is as though the LORD Himself was speaking……..as truly He did speak the original. He also spoke to my heart as I read.

God’s Blessings,
Helen

Michael

“I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58

Hi Mary,

I agree with Helen that your choice of Scripture is beautiful and true.

But when the scripture stands alone, I’m not sure what the passages are saying.

For example, one might think that Jesus is saying that he is referring to himself as “I am.”

Maybe he is, but I don’t know that for sure, because that is what Yahweh calls himself.

And Jesus is telling the Jews that he knows Yahweh and they don’t.

They don’t understand Jesus either because they are on the literal level and Jesus is not.

The Jews ask Jesus how he could have seen Abraham if he is not yet fifty.

And Jesus, in a little game of one-ups-man-ship infers that he has also seen “I am” (the Father) .

Who is older than Abraham.

Ian & Tara Marron

We waited a little while for someone else to make a comment about the texts used above as proof that Jesus is God, but no-one did… so may we pick up on this verse as it is one that is often used in this way. (By the way, we are making no comment except to say that we each should check out what is actually written before we use it to back up our beliefs. I happen to have these notes to hand as Tara and I have studied this topic at length in order to end the silly situation of not really knowing why we believed what we believed.)

OK, first – we need to note that John Ch8 ends with the Jews intending to stone Jesus. Stoning isn’t the punishment for ‘blasphemy’… it’s the punishment for being a false prophet. Blasphemy had to be tried in court. So, clearly, the Jews were angry at the comments, but they didn’t drag Jesus before the Beth Din for claiming to be God.

The verse Michael quotes does not refer to Jesus existing before Abraham, but to who he is compared to Abraham. The Peshitta NT translates it as something like: “Jesus said to them, truth, truth, I say to you that I am (it) before Abraham comes.”

This is the answer to the question they asked: “Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? The prophets died too; whom do You make Yourself out to be?” And Jesus answered, “That’s exactly what I am saying; my status is greater than Abraham’s” or “In order, it’s me then Abraham.” The Hebrew sages say that; “King Messiah will be higher than Abraham, because Abraham possessed nothing except seventy souls (his household), but King Messiah will turn to the service of G~d, many peoples.”

Now, note that Jesus doesn’t say that he and Abraham met sometime in the past; he just says that Abraham desired (correct translation – not ‘rejoiced’) to see “my day” or “my time”. What actually happens is that the Pharisees mock Jesus to attack his prophetic comment about him having a higher ‘status’ and saying that people won’t die – “you’re not even 50 and yet you claim to have seen Abraham!” [He didn’t, but that’s the ‘put down’.] The sages say that one day Abraham had a vision of all his descendants. [Incidentally, the greatest delight that Abraham is said to have expressed, was when he was able to untie Isaac from the altar – because then they were both able to go on and show even greater commitment to God].

Now – we know that the Christian argument is that Jesus answers the mocking by saying that he is the I AM or God – an echo of God telling Moses the Name he should use. Let’s look at Exodus Ch3 v14 with the relevant bit of the Greek translation alongside: “God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM” [ego eimi ho on]; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM [ho on] has sent me to you.'”

And here is John Ch8 v58: “Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am [ego eimi].””

Personally, I like this translation that I once heard for “ego eimi ho on” – “I will be whatever I want to be whenever I want to be, however I want to be wherever I want to be”. However, we could simply say: “I will be the Being”. But note: “ho on” is how God told Moses to refer to Him – not “ego eimi”. “Ego eimi” simply means, “I am (he/it)”. It could be the answer to the question, “Who is writing this comment?” “I am”.

The words “ego eimi” are used hundreds of times in the Bible – turn to the next chapter where Jesus has healed a beggar. John Ch9 v8-9: “Therefore the neighbours, and those who previously saw him as a beggar, were saying, “Is not this the one who used to sit and beg?” Others were saying, “This is he,” still others were saying, “No, but he is like him.” He kept saying, “I am the one [ego eimi].”” The beggar isn’t saying that he is God!

As I say, we’re making no comment except to say that – when properly translated, or kept in context – we’ve found that most regularly used ‘proof texts’ don’t really support the theology that Jesus is God. [I’m only a novice translator – so I will bow to Skip or anyone else with more skill in this area].

Michael

“I will be whatever I want to be whenever I want to be, however I want to be wherever I want to be”.

Hi Ian & Tara,

Thanks for correcting my comments; John has never exactly been my “cup of tea.”

And I like your interpretation of “ego eimi ho on” above.

Michael

“The Father and I are one.” John 10:30

Hi Mary,

Just for fun, let me analyze how I read the statement above and see where I go wrong.

John is the “implied” author and some might argue that God is the “real” author.

Jesus is talking about his Father who has given him the greatest “gifts.”

His sheep.

Jesus gives his sheep eternal life, which cannot be stolen because it belongs to the Father.

Jesus tells us that the works he does are done in the name of his Father.

The passage clearly draws a distinction between the two characters.

The Father and Son are different characters.

But there is both “difference” and “identity.”

Jesus says they are “one”.

But, it seems to me, the Father clearly has a higher level of authority.

Mary

Hi Michael,
“But, it seems to me, the Father clearly has a higher level of authority.”
I would agree, it seems as though the Father is above Messiah. It appears to me that there is a continuum of “being” that is manifested in both distinction and identity somewhat like that of the ocean that is one huge body of water yet is “contained” or shaped by its location or surroundings. Messiah came in the “fullness of time”, after YHVH fellowshipped and lived with man in a “distinctively different” manner than Yehsua’s short time on “spatial” ground. Even now, we are blessed to have the Presence alive and well in the “form” of the Holy Spirit, Ruach Hakodesh, that never leaves or forsakes us, who never calls attention to Himself but speaks of Messiah. All this was accomplished in the splendor and grandeur of trial, pain, misunderstanding, meekness and humility…far below the power and authority of the Mighty One, yet this is how He chose to manifest Himself. Albeit, I see your point(s), just maybe differently?

Have this in your mind, which was also in Messiah Yeshua,who, existing in the form of God, didn’t consider it robbery to be equal with God,but emptied himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in the likeness of men.And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross.Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name;that at the name of Yeshua every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on eretz, and those under the eretz,and that every tongue should confess that Yeshua the Messiah is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5-11

Michael

“I see your point(s), just maybe differently?”

Hi Mary,

Well I feel a little bit like Jonah who started out on terra firma and then was taken out to sea.

And dropped into the deep blue ocean 🙂

But I do like your continuum of “being” metaphor; of the huge body of water that is “contained” or shaped by its location.

For me, Philippians 2:5-11 is sort of apples compared to the oranges of John 10:30.

At least in so far as the former seems much more sophisticated than the latter.

About as far as I can go with Paul, in passages like Philippians 2:5-11, is to appreciate what he is saying.

It seems to me to be a conceptualization of Paul’s experience based on his mastery of the Bible.

So I would just try to understand what he is saying.

I appreciate your very thoughtful and illuminating comments!

Ian & Tara Marron

We have woken this morning to find that the Greek dust seems to be settling once more. Ah, well…

carl roberts

-Let the Greek dust settle on the man who came out of a sealed tomb, the third day, “just as He said.” Yes, He was/is a prophet, Yes, He was/is a Priest,Yes, He was/is a King, (not a king but King of kings) and Yes,- He is LORD. (Not a lord, but LORD of lords). Yeshua Hamashiach. Emmanuel- G-d with us. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. G-d incarnate- the union of two houses, the human and the Divine. “Only” over three hundred prophecies concerning His birth. “This” man was a man, but also according to His words (which never fail), according to His life (which was only perfect), according to the manner of His birth, life, death and resurrection, “this” man was very simply the (now living) Son of G-d, and G-d the Son, Jesus Christ (to the Gentile) and Yeshua Hamashiach,(to the Jew) the Savior of the world, “both” Jew and Greek. What was Sha’uls occupation before “seeing” Him? What occupied his time and energies after this “encounter?” How much of the “second-half” of the Covenant (the blood Covenant) was written by a changed man? If “Christ-(the Annointed ONE) has not changed your life, your attitudes and actions, your beliefs and behaviors,you creed and your conduct, your doctrine and your deeds (radically), you have never met Him.

Ian & Tara Marron

“If Christ-(the Annointed ONE) has not changed your life, your attitudes and actions, your beliefs and behaviors,you creed and your conduct, your doctrine and your deeds (radically), you have never met Him.”

Ian was an atheist. He was one of the four most sought after lighting designers in the entertainment world and worked for MCA/Universal on top TV shows as a special effects designer. He was successful, financially secure and extremely happy. A friend (an ex-hells angel) gave him a Bible and Ian was dramatically and very surprisingly convinced of the reality of God as he read the Scripture. He “gave his life to Christ” there and then – in testimony, he says, “God grabbed my hand and started running and we haven’t stopped since.” He was baptised in the Spirit 2 weeks later.

As a result, Ian abandoned the entertainment business (a difficult ground for young Christians) and took any job going to make ends meet. He went to theological college because he wanted “to know everything I could about the God I had ignored.” He has pastored three churches, and toured the UK and US in itinerant ministry over a period of 32 years. He spends every waking moment in ministry to others or in reading and studying the Word – it is his entire life. His hobby is Torah!

Tara, too, is a seminary-trained minister. She was brought up as a Catholic, but was always aware of the Spirit’s leading and moved into more ‘charismatic’ circles as she came of an age to make her own decisions. She, too, is an avid student of the Word. She gives her life over to ensuring that Ian has the time and wherewithall to study and serve.

We are actively pursuing God with every fibre of our being, every moment of the day – we are blessed to have been put in situations where we can do that… with no real distractions. It is through study that we have reached the point where we can’t ignore what we see as major problems in the New Testament writings. It is probably right that we back off a little from writing comments that begin, “But the Jews…”! We won’t stop posting altogether, but we’ll try not to stir things as much. We wouldn’t want to cause problems for those who feel secure where they are. God Bless.

carl roberts

I agree also, Ian and Tara- don’t stop!! If G-d has revealed something to you, and we are walking down the wrong pathway we need to know, the earlier the better! How blessed you are to have the leisure of time to pray and study the scripture.
A word of warning (at least from me, anyway). I want you to hear (everyone) say- “thus saith the LORD!” Anything scripturally based and anything that uses G-d’s book as the “plumb-line” is truth. We truly cannot rely on our “opinion” or tradition or religion, (rules and rituals) for we (who are His- all of us) have discovered a wonderful truth which cannot be denied by any follower of the Way; “Christianity” is not a religion, it is a relationship with (the now living) G-d. We desperately need to hear from each other and how YHWH has impacted our living. There is no such thing as a “closet Christian.”- “Let the redeemed of the LORD, say so!”
Just in the reading of your testimonies- I have been blessed. I love (love) to say, “G-d did that!”. Your lives are a further “proof” (to those who need proof), of the reality of what we have “in Christ.” -His words are true. Amen.

Mary

Please do not take offense…even if it is intended, please do not take it. The beauty of communication is that it is NOT a one way happening. The back and forth here is unique to many other “Christian” blogs. It is highly unusual for individuals to get rough with one another here and this is one of the many reasons why I continue here. Many times I have “felt” or “sensed” less than positive comments, some aimed toward me, and determined to not post or leave altogether. I, for one, am interested in your posts and am especially glad to read (hear) a portion of your personal testimony.
I am not so sure of anyones “security” in what they believe in so far as they cannot continue to learn or have God turn their understanding totally and completely upside down. Yet I DO think that even those who do not have it together Scripturally can be true believers, just misinformed. Although it may appear that way, maybe that position only “appears” as such. Having come from a Charismatic denomination myself, I am in turmoil over many things I “see” that do not line up with the entire counsel of God. I want to know Him in His fullness and am asking Him to reveal His truth. I would love to continue having you share with us.

carl roberts

Mary, as I have said before, I love your heart. You are a true “seeker” of YHWH. (and He has promised we shall find Him when we seek for Him with all our hearts. ) Jeremiah 29.13

The day I stop learning will be the day I cease to breathe. Discipleship is a lifelong quest. We may “press toward the mark”, but our Standard (the LORD Jesus!) seems further away every day!. The only thing that “keeps me going” is I have had a “taste!” I have had but a “glimpse” of glory and I am one who wants more. To drink deeply from the wells of Salvation. To eat the bread of life. To learn to pray. -I am a but a child, but praise Hashem dear sister, I am His child!

Antonio Garcia

Hi everybody, on a version l read about Jhon 10:30 it says The Father and l are one thing, for me it makes sense more than just one, this is the way that ha satan works and we call theology or something else because one word make a big big diference and causes such divisions of reading, or misinterpretation.
Antonio